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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    #181
    Originally posted by pollywog

    The best result would be for him to retire so punters can wax lyrical about how prime Wilder was the hardest hitting champion ever who would have destroyed every other champ by knockout.

    He's at serious risk of becoming the body on his own record otherwise.
    No he needs to come back and fight some top-10 guys so we can find out exactly he good he is. Fury is doing the same thing - only fought two top-10 fighters in 8 years now

    Also I guarantee if Wilder wins one fight by KO again - everyone on here will suddenly think he is the best boxer ever again.

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    • Tom Joad
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      #182
      Boxing is such a crooked sport. My biggest surprise of the night was that the boxing judges didn't declare Wilder - who lost every round - the winner.

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      • HandsofIron
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        #183
        Originally posted by Boro

        Don't need your pointless maths, Wilder has overcome similar weight differences on multiple occasions, like I said it's never been an issue for him until it was...

        And it wasn't an issue for the likes of Haye, Dubois, Joshua, Musina so on and so forth....

        He lost his only meaningful step up fights it's that simple, he has always been and always will be mediocre...
        Wilder lost all 3 times to Fury, who has out weighed him at least 50-55 lbs.

        Now on the flipside, Fury (273) fought somebody who never boxed before or as mediocre as you say, in Francis Ngannou (278) and he got his ass beat.

        It's simply the laws of proportions, Wilder is too small for the mega sized Heavyweights.

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          #184
          Originally posted by Tecnoworld
          Some days ago I wrote that Parker was the best opponent that wilder ever met, apart for Fury. This was evident in the match.

          You can say that Parker was above his average, but he totally dominated.

          Now I'd like a rematch with AJ but I doubt this will ever happen since Parker almost scored the upset back then, already.

          Possibly Parker vs Zhang to challenge the winner of AJ vs hrgovic?
          Parker almost scored the upset? What???? He was dominated from start to finish. At no point did he look like winning. He disengaged and ran from AJ. All AJ had to do was stay in control of the distance and stay on top of him. He didn't need to get out of 1st gear. But i would love it if you could point out the part in the fight where he nearly won. Love it.

          Zhang knocks Parker out or wins a lopsided decision.

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          • Boro
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            #185
            Originally posted by HandsofIron

            Wilder lost all 3 times to Fury, who has out weighed him at least 50-55 lbs.

            Now on the flipside, Fury (273) fought somebody who never boxed before or as mediocre as you say, in Francis Ngannou (278) and he got his ass beat.

            It's simply the laws of proportions, Wilder is too small for the mega sized Heavyweights.
            Wilder also overcome 70+ pound difference on 3 occasions as well.

            As for Ngannou being mediocre that's up for debate, he came to Europe looking to be a boxer, every move he's made has made throughout his MMA career been with the explicit goal in mind.

            He started training as a boxer when he first came to France, he actual had amatuer experience despite what they tell you, it's just happenstance he was training in an MMA gym and one guy suggest he takes it up...

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              #186
              Originally posted by Boro

              Wilder also overcome 70+ pound difference on 3 occasions as well.

              As for Ngannou being mediocre that's up for debate, he came to Europe looking to be a boxer, every move he's made has made throughout his MMA career been with the explicit goal in mind.

              He started training as a boxer when he first came to France, he actual had amatuer experience despite what they tell you, it's just happenstance he was training in an MMA gym and one guy suggest he takes it up...
              Regardless if Francis had an amateur career or not, he never boxed professionally before and made Fury, the so called best HW, look like complete ass.

              ​​​​​​I don't remember Wilder overcoming a 70+ pound difference, I'll have to look that up, cuz I'm just assuming those guys must of been obese, fat bums.

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                #187
                Originally posted by HandsofIron

                Regardless if Francis had an amateur career or not, he never boxed professionally before and made Fury, the so called best HW, look like complete ass.

                ​​​​​​I don't remember Wilder overcoming a 70+ pound difference, I'll have to look that up, cuz I'm just assuming those guys must of been obese, fat bums.
                Regardless of him boxing or not, he was the creme de la creme of heavies in MMA and it's not like heavies need to be skilled to be dominant in boxing.

                Case and point Wilder the 10th longest reigning heavyweight in history and joint 5th most defences with Ali...

                And how would you know if Fury looked like ass or not you openly admitted you didn't even watch the fight so you're going based of hearsay like a woman?

                And of course the men were obese, so is Fury... he's 6'7 on a REALLY good day and he's about 50 pounds over what would be considered a normal BMI and several pounds into obese.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Boro

                  Regardless of him boxing or not, he was the creme de la creme of heavies in MMA and it's not like heavies need to be skilled to be dominant in boxing.

                  Case and point Wilder the 10th longest reigning heavyweight in history and joint 5th most defences with Ali...

                  And how would you know if Fury looked like ass or not you openly admitted you didn't even watch the fight so you're going based of hearsay like a woman?

                  And of course the men were obese, so is Fury... he's 6'7 on a REALLY good day and he's about 50 pounds over what would be considered a normal BMI and several pounds into obese.
                  Dude, I watched the fight, Fury got embarrassed by a MMA fighter, a boxing novice, a newbie, a rookie, a nobody.

                  And if anyone's arguing like a woman it's you, I posted a quick example of why Wilder lost using his weight as an example, and you responded with "blah, blah maths is pointless"

                  This is my original point, just in case it flys over your head again - Wilder is too small for the modern, Super sized Heavyweights.
                  And that is why the WBC and now WBA have created the Bridgerweight and Super Cruiserweight divisions for the smaller Heavyweights (190 - 224 lbs).

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                  • Boro
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by HandsofIron

                    Dude, I watched the fight, Fury got embarrassed by a MMA fighter, a boxing novice, a newbie, a rookie, a nobody.

                    And if anyone's arguing like a woman it's you, I posted a quick example of why Wilder lost using his weight as an example, and you responded with "blah, blah maths is pointless"

                    This is my original point, just in case it flys over your head again - Wilder is too small for the modern, Super sized Heavyweights.
                    And that is why the WBC and now WBA have created the Bridgerweight and Super Cruiserweight divisions for the smaller Heavyweights (190 - 224 lbs).
                    No, no one is arguing like a woman apart from YOU, you're arguing from your feelings about the situation i'm arguing from the FACTS and Wilders has overcame larger disparities and has refused to be involved in the bridgerweight division himself so he disagrees with your retárded premise.

                    And your not arguing a point, you're just crying because your a fan of a man who can't deal with people with an ounce of skill.

                    No response was "blah blah blah" either, I clearly pointed out the holes in your arguments throughout you imbecile.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

                      Agreed that Parker did well. But I did think Wilder looked way worse than normal. Don't forget almost no one has been able to hit Fury - but Wilder managed it a ton of times and put him down too. He even landed that 3 punch combo on Fury that put Fury down first fight after putting a read on where Fury moves his head. I expect Wilder to be a lot better next time. He will probably throw caution to the wind. One thing I was impressed with was Wilder's chin. He's a skinny guy but he took some hard shots from Parker with ease. Definitely got exposed a bit though.

                      If everyone judged Wlad on his punch-shy performance against Fury he would be a terrible fighter. But next fight against AJ he put caution to the wind and went for it. Sometimes it takes a loss to take that pressure off
                      Fury has always been open to overhand rights, even early in his career. Not sure where the elusive defensive master reputation has come from. He’s surprisingly slick for his size, but most opponents have no trouble finding him a few times in each fight.

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