I don’t think Bivol will be able to keep Beterbiev off.

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  • dan_cov
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    #71
    I've always had Bivol winning that fight since they both burst on the scene.

    Now I am flip flopping and its not because of the Smith fight (only seen the highlights) probably a little more down to the Arthur fight than anything and just thinking a little deeper.

    On one hand I think Bivol has the style to pull it off and he is almost untouchable when he takes centre ring but on the flip I can see him lacking the firepower and being and this might not be popular but him being just too damn basic. I think he is excellent - Great defence just beautiful subtle movements making you miss by mm's, good footwork but if there is one knock I have its he just spams the 1-2. Jab, cross, jab, cross over and over. As a fan its almost frustrating because even with such a limited offense he is levels above everyone to the point of annoyance, he should be getting them out of there! Can someone teach him how to throw a hook or uppercut? seriously.

    I'm no longer so sure.
    I can still see Bivol outboxing him and fairly routinely but another part sees Beterbiev taking 3-4 to get used to the handspeed and crispness and just saying **** it and doing his usual steamrolling. I don't have any questions about Bivols toughness or stamina but 12 rounds must feel like a lifetime being in there with that guy.
    I don't want to compare him to Joe Joyce as that wouldn't be fair on him he is a much, much better fighter but its a similar sort of brute force approach. Relentless pressure, heavy hands, throwing a lot of volume behind a hard, stiff jab. Doing 12 rounds is one thing but doing it against this relentless pressure and being forced to move and to fight at a pace you're not comfortable with, getting hit and having to react to 4s and 5s being thrown and from someone very heavy handed, its different.

    This is a whole lot of nothing just to say I have no idea who wins. Good fight, I need to see it, I can see both sides of the argument for sure.​

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    • hhh1200
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      #72
      who is the A-side? Someone said the ring was small last night. Does Beterbiev request a small ring b/c he has 3 belts? Just asking I don't the saudis want to pay millions for bivol to go in and out like the canelo fight for 12 rounds.
      Last edited by hhh1200; 01-14-2024, 04:45 AM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        There will be no destruction in Bivol -Beterbiev fight. Beterbiev is a slow starter. His aggressiveness is controlled, planed, He is actually a careful fighter, just like Bivol.

        It will be more a chess match. Beterbiev will understand that if he just jumps on Bivol he will get countered.
        agreed they are both calculated but i don't think the saudis are paying for 22 ft round

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        • deathofaclown
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          #74
          Originally posted by kiaba360

          Additionally, Bivol isn't going to agree to a small ring where Beterbiev would be able to easily hunt him down. Beterbiev seemed very comfortable tonight because he knew he could get to Smith whenever he wanted....in such a small ring.
          thats right

          Although Smith has never used distance in his career, he's always liked to fight up close and throw hooks, so the ring size probably didn't matter much anyway

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          • MikeyG
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            #75
            Originally posted by satiev1

            beterbiev had a better amateur record than bivol. He knows the in n out soviet school of system. He just chooses instead to ko his opponents. Bivol is getting stopped.
            Well he definitely didn't seem to slow down just yet

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            • HeadShots
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              #76
              Originally posted by Light_Speed
              You said he got stopped by Pascal though, which is false. It went to the scorecards and he lost by one point. You misrepresented the fight, Browne is not trash.
              He got knocked down 3 times and lost

              pascal >>> browne

              get over it woman. Geez

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                #77
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                I just don’t think he hits hard enough. Still think it’s a great fight and one I really want to see but I favour Beterbiev.
                This depends. At Beterbiev's age of 39+ we just don't know how much he will decide by the next time they fight. They should have already fought 2 years ago.

                Key for Bivol is his footwork, defense and jab. I favor AB too if they fight in 3 months. 9 months is too far out.

                American's better get used to international boxing each other from heavyweight, currier weight, light heavyweight and middle weight, fighting each other in major fights. I do not see the USA talent and what very little they have it taken TKO'd by police, boxing's PED policy, or by superior competition.
                Last edited by Dr. Z; 01-14-2024, 06:23 AM.

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HeadShots

                  Browne got stopped and dropped 3 times by pascal lol
                  You lied, get over it.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    Bivol has the best distance control in boxing and statistically best defence

                    Beterbiev isn't going to have a static target he can pressure like his other opponents.

                    Let's be real, Smith couldn't even deal with the pressure style of John Ryder. Beterbiev was gonna pressure him with ease.

                    Doing it to Bivol who is the master of distance control is gonna be a different task altogether
                    Bivol does take/block a lot of punches on the gloves though. He isn’t really that elusive, like a Mayweather, Whitaker etc. He relies more on his guard to block and parry punches.

                    I could be wrong but I’m very confident Beterbiev stops him.

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                    • HeadShots
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Light_Speed
                      You lied, get over it.
                      Browne is a literal bum that got dropped 3 times and beat by old Pascal

                      get over it woman

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