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Originally posted by Boro View Post
If he didn't underperform he wouldn've won, Joyce is mediocre, I personally thought if Parker could get it together for once he'd beat and expose Joyce for what he is.
If you want to say looking mediocre is "not a bad performance" then fine that's your threshold but it certainly isn't mine.
And I also suspect Wilder will win, what exactly are you telling me this for!? it's pretty apparent he will, Parker just doesn't deliver when it matters that now has become the expectation of him.
BUT Parker could pull off the "upset" if the stars align and he actually pulls out what everyone knows he's capable of.
I came into this thread, to tell you 'That Parker has no real bad performances on his resume'. Parker has never been blasted out in a fight, or skill for skill 'Parker has never looked completely out of a fight or noncompetitive'.
I also highlighted that nobody can really honestly criticize Parker's performance vs Joyce '
In comparison, Deontay Wilder has in my opinion 'When you check his fights as a whole? Wilder has multiple bad performances, were his power has essentially got him out of a bad situation'.
Joyce is not a mediocre fighter, and Parker did not under perform vs Joyce.
Mediocre Heavyweights do not throw 844 punches in just over 10 rounds mate 'That is the type of intensity Joyce, brought against Parker'.
To put this into perspective, Joyce was producing a higher work rate than a peak Ricky Hatton 'In some of his fights'.
Tyson Fury in his third fight vs Wilder threw 385 punches 'Both Wilder and Parker were stopped in the 11th round. But Parker had to endure and withstand a much more heavy and sustained offensive bombardment from Joe Joyce, who most likely is a by far more powerful puncher than Tyson Fury'.
Joyce on average was out working Fury in his fights, by almost 200%.
Joyce at the time he fought Parker was not a mediocre fighter 'And Parker did not under perform, he was just beaten'.
Note: Bad performances are when a fighter is blasted out, or completely out of the fight skill for skill 'Wilder has actually had more bad performances than Parker. Take away his knock-outs, and analyse his actual fights in whole. There are many fights were he is not really in the fight, is all over the place and dropping rounds'.
All I am doing in this thread is, entertaining and exploring the alternative outcome in this fight against the status quo 'I am clearly not in the same arena of perspective as you Boro'.
So you think Wilder is going to win, and this is very apparent 'It is only apparent to you, because you are clearly pining over Wilder's power'.
I don't see the fight quite like that, because as I have stated before? 99.99% of the time 'If Wilder cannot deck or hurt his opponents. Then Wilder almost pretty much has no choice, but to be out boxed and drop rounds vs most other top level Heavyweights'.
Parker is former World Champion, has never been blasted out in a fight 'Has proven durability, and solid power' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-21-2023, 08:44 AM.
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Originally posted by Cyborg Fangerloo View Post
I am concerned about you
Seriously, what is the ****ing point in responding if you don't have something to say? Even if you've never seen the HH gimmick and do not know I'm doing it because the members asked me to return hoagies to jabronis, what's the point in your post?
Y'all like talking about boxing or just playing social media grabass?
I will wait for an argument against anything I said. You got something to say about my Parker breakdown? How about how I pointed out youse lot don't know TF you're talking about? No? Just want to let me know you don't get the gimmick? Oh gee bud, oh boy, I seem like a social media grab asser to you?
Bring me some ****ing boxing or go **** yerself. I'll let y'all play your *****ing off games on your own, I won't quote one of your dumb ass dumb ******* posts, until you quote me you goofy ****er. With what? Nothing? Here's yer ****in' hoagie *****.
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Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
Big Baby will intimidate and crush DD.
I copy pasted so I did not have to write as I was working but I never said Wilder KO, lol.
As a matter of fact I thought Parker did not have a heart 2 weeks ago but I changed the tune when I remembered how bad Wilder is.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
So I have checked back through your posts in this thread again. In your first posts you seem to think that Parker is the worst boxer in the world 'This is the attitude in which you came up into this thread with'.
I came into this thread, to tell you 'That Parker has no real bad performances on his resume'. Parker has never been blasted out in a fight, or skill for skill 'Parker has never looked completely out of a fight or noncompetitive'.
I also highlighted that nobody can really honestly criticize Parker's performance vs Joyce '
In comparison, Deontay Wilder has in my opinion 'When you check his fights as a whole? Wilder has multiple bad performances, were his power has essentially got him out of a bad situation'.
Joyce is not a mediocre fighter, and Parker did not under perform vs Joyce.
Mediocre Heavyweights do not throw 844 punches in just over 10 rounds mate 'That is the type of intensity Joyce, brought against Parker'.
To put this into perspective, Joyce was producing a higher work rate than a peak Ricky Hatton 'In some of his fights'.
Tyson Fury in his third fight vs Wilder threw 385 punches 'Both Wilder and Parker were stopped in the 11th round. But Parker had to endure and withstand a much more heavy and sustained offensive bombardment from Joe Joyce, who most likely is a by far more powerful puncher than Tyson Fury'.
Joyce on average was out working Fury in his fights, by almost 200%.
Joyce at the time he fought Parker was not a mediocre fighter 'And Parker did not under perform, he was just beaten'.
Note: Bad performances are when a fighter is blasted out, or completely out of the fight skill for skill 'Wilder has actually had more bad performances than Parker. Take away his knock-outs, and analyse his actual fights in whole. There are many fights were he is not really in the fight, is all over the place and dropping rounds'.
All I am doing in this thread is, entertaining and exploring the alternative outcome in this fight against the status quo 'I am clearly not in the same arena of perspective as you Boro'.
So you think Wilder is going to win, and this is very apparent 'It is only apparent to you, because you are clearly pining over Wilder's power'.
I don't see the fight quite like that, because as I have stated before? 99.99% of the time 'If Wilder cannot deck or hurt his opponents. Then Wilder almost pretty much has no choice, but to be out boxed and drop rounds vs most other top level Heavyweights'.
Parker is former World Champion, has never been blasted out in a fight 'Has proven durability, and solid power' etc.
You can criticise the fight against joyce, he has the advantage in ability,speed of feet and hands and he choose to stand toe to toe with him and try to win in a shot out
Joyce is mediocre he throws arms punches and slow as molasses, relies entirely on his chin to win fights and hopes they punch themselves out on his head...
Your definition of a bad performance is up for debate you don't have to be blasted out to have a bad performance and Wilder doesn't always have bad performance either he generally capitalise on the first good opening and ends the night if that constitutes bad then okay.
"It's a very real possibility Parker beats him, Compared to Parker he's extremely limited BUT as I've pointed out numerous times now Parker NEVER puts it all together at once.
And the inability to do so has not only cost him fights multiple times and that's unlikely to change and it's extremely disappointing because as i've said it could be argued he's top 3/4 as far as potential skill/ability is concerned I also suspect Wilder will win BUT Parker could pull off the upset".
These are some of the things i've said, why would you think I'm picking or picked Wilder, it's more a lack of faith in Parkers ability to put it together when it matters, which is seemingly changing under Andy Lee.
Moreso than any belief in Wilder that's damn sure, Wilder is a pudding but Parkers general apprehension could've lead to him getting smoked... Last edited by Boro; 12-24-2023, 04:20 PM.
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Originally posted by pollywog View Post
And you know this how ?
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Originally posted by Tony Green View Post
It was in the NZ media couple years ago, that a prominent NZ "athlete" is being charged with meth distribution, then it came out it was Parker, then as soon as it came out it was him, it suddenly disappeared, and wasn't mentioned again, strange ay.. Bruv he's fully involved in large scale trafficking of that sweet sweet meth
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Originally posted by pollywog View Post
He probably laundered money for some mates but that was it.
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Originally posted by Tony Green View Post
That was what came out from the very controlled NZ media, but there's rumours he's a lot more involved than that, given that he's good mates with fury, and his Irish mob ties, it's not that far-fetched tbh, and NZ is a very "who you know, not what you know" society, so parker paying off whom he needs to to get out of trouble wouldn't be difficult to imagine, there's even a small percentage of the police force here that are involved in the meth game, but ya know, there's money to be made
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Originally posted by pollywog View Post
He may have been young and dumb enough back in the day but not now. He's made too much money and got to much to lose in the boxing game.
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