Haney is top 5 p4p fighter now

[daggum]

Yes it was. Despite Loma swerving him earlier with the emeritus/franchise bs, he gave fans that fight as soon as he could. You should be crediting him for that.

Ok. I missed that.

I am fine if you don’t like Haney. But I can’t see him being discredited when his last 4 fights have been unification, BS rematch not needed but mandated by contract on road, Loma and moving up to fight Prograis.

Imagine if all the top boxers moved like this?

still making things up i see. he swerved him by fighting lopez who was #1...hmm ok. nothing loma did prevented the fight from happening. nothing. if he had actually fought an unproven haney with 0 top 10 wins everyone would have said hes duckign lopez and you know it. the whole reason for the emeritus status is to clear the way for big unification fights. it says that on their website. thats what happened no? what you are talking about is a counterfactual where loma beats lopez then suddenly ducks haney which didnt happen and also ever heard of a rematch? makes it a lot harder with a mandatory. what happened is loma said make me a big offer and ill fight haney otherwise its lopez. dazn made 0 offers. wheres the duck? even after the lopez fight loma reached out to fight haney and haney chose linares instead so once again wheres the duck? makes no sense.

[daggum]

Imo....Another win at 140 vs champ would def put him in p4p top 10

well hes number 7 right now and tank is number 8 lmao. clearly resume does not matter for this list. eye test all the way baby! ennis must be #1!

[The Big Dunn]

still making things up i see. he swerved him by fighting lopez who was #1...hmm ok. nothing loma did prevented the fight from happening. nothing. if he had actually fought an unproven haney with 0 top 10 wins everyone would have said hes duckign lopez and you know it. the whole reason for the emeritus status is to clear the way for big unification fights. it says that on their website. thats what happened no? what you are talking about is a counterfactual where loma beats lopez then suddenly ducks haney which didnt happen. you seem to want it to happen though? dont really get it. what happened is loma said make me a big offer and ill fight haney otherwise its lopez. dazn made 0 offers. wheres the duck? even after the lopez fight loma reached out to fight haney and haney chose linares instead so once again wheres the duck? makes no sense.

No daggum. He avoided Haney. Dan Rafael asked him about the emeritus/franchise title request- he lied about knowing about it. Dan caught him red handed lying, wrote about it, and you and other Loma diehards still deny it.

Pathetic. Have some integrity for once.

Stop the fake BS. I wouldn’t have said anything. The fact is when it was an easy defense- Crolla- he took it and made the payday.

If Haney was so easy Loma and Bob would’ve made the fight and grabbed the payday. He was never going to be easy.

Stop blaming Dazn for Loma swerving Haney. You have a terrible inability to hold boxers you like accountable for their actions.

You killed Canelo for the very same thing you defend Loma for. Of course the difference is Canelo did it to an Eastern European while Loma is an Eastern European doing it to an American.

Note he is now avoiding Shakur to instead fight Kambosos for an easy payday.

[The Big Dunn]

No way he makes it to the P4P list. He CLEARLY lost to Loma and got a gift. Then he ducked the rematch and hand picked an aged, flatfooted counter-puncher.

Letâs talk about the sport of boxing and what actually IS, not the business of boxing and rewarding fighters for slipping and dipping their way to titles by hook or crook.

Lmfao. You picked Prograis to win, didn’t you?

Lmfao ducked what rematch? He could barely make 135 for the Loma fight. He won and moved up to fight the top available name at 140. How can you criticize that?

Loma took the rest of the year off, right?

He is ducking Shakur, to instead set up an easy payday with Kambosos to get a belt.

Talk about slipping and dipping your way to a title.

[Cypocryphy]

Lmfao. You picked Prograis to win, didn’t you?

Lmfao ducked what rematch? He could barely make 135 for the Loma fight. He won and moved up to fight the top available name at 140. How can you criticize that?

Loma took the rest of the year off, right?

He is ducking Shakur, to instead set up an easy payday with Kambosos to get a belt.

Talk about slipping and dipping your way to a title.

No. I didn't. I was going to bet on the under, thinking someone was going to get stopped. But I wasn't confident that Haney could stop Regis just like I wasn't confident that Regis could land that killer blow. I'm glad I didn't.

Haney met with Arum to setup a rematch with Loma but said that Devin (Bill said this) needed more money to make the rematch happen. That tells me he priced himself out. He then moved up to fight Regis after talking to Hearn. But there was a moment he was in discussions with Top Rank to setup the rematch because it would have been a huge PPV. You can even find a video of Arum and Bill have a meeting.

Loma took the rest of the year off, which is what he did because he's fighting exactly a year later. Shakur had to fight before April of next year. There is nothing contradictory with what's happening. Plus, at this point, it's clear that a fight in Australia vs Kambosos is probably more lucrative than a fight with Shakur after his last performance. After Loma beats Kambosos, you can setup a unification fight. That's been the plan.

This is why your name is Big Dunce.

[The Big Dunn]

No. I didn't. I was going to bet on the under, thinking someone was going to get stopped. But I wasn't confident that Haney could stop Regis just like I wasn't confident that Regis could land that killer blow. I'm glad I didn't.

Haney met with Arum to setup a rematch with Loma but said that Devin (Bill said this) needed more money to make the rematch happen. That tells me he priced himself out. He then moved up to fight Regis after talking to Hearn. But there was a moment he was in discussions with Top Rank to setup the rematch because it would have been a huge PPV. You can even find a video of Arum and Bill have a meeting.

Loma took the rest of the year off, which is what he did because he's fighting exactly a year later. Shakur had to fight before April of next year. There is nothing contradictory with what's happening. Plus, at this point, it's clear that a fight in Australia vs Kambosos is probably more lucrative than a fight with Shakur after his last performance. After Loma beats Kambosos, you can setup a unification fight. That's been the plan.

This is why your name is Big Dunce.

Ok.

No it doesnt. It tells you that he wanted more money to starve himself down to 135, a weight he was having difficulty making.

Huge PPV? Haney nor Loma is a huge ppv seller. The first fight sold what 150k. What makes you think the rematch does substantially more sales?

Yeah, he moved up because he was struggling to make 135. Hearn got him a title fight with the top available 140lb champion. He took the fight- exactly what we ask young champions moving up to do.

Shakur called him out for ducking. You arent because you love Loma.

Kambosos is an easy payday for a belt. Have some integrity and call it what it is instead of justifying it.

No, my name is The Big Dunn. You riffing on my name doesnt justify your excuses for his ducking Shakur for an easy payday.

Waaaaaaaah

[champion4ever]

Sorry I misread your post
I thought you were insinuating weight
That was what I was referring to
I thought your point was the fact of him having to make the weight
My bad

Apology accepted. No problem; We good bro!

[champion4ever]

What? lol Some people on this forum are so dumb. So Devin just wanted to let Loma punch him in the face all night? Lmao!! You canât be serious â¦. YDKSAB.

Listen asshole face! Haney and his pops Bill Haney devised a strategy and plan to back Loma up in order to force him to fight off the back foot like Teofimo Lopez did.

However, he only had marginal success fighting that way. Had he fought his old style like he did Saturday night against Regis Prograis; He would defeated Vasily more decisively and soundly.

[j0zef]

Haney beating Regis does not get him p4p status
Sorry that just sounds crazy to me

End thread here. Well said.

[Cypocryphy]

Listen asshole face! Haney and his pops Bill Haney devised a strategy and plan to back Loma up in order to force him to fight off the back foot like Teofimo Lopez did.

However, he only had marginal success fighting that way. Had he fought his old style like he did Saturday night against Regis Prograis; He would defeated Vasily more decisively and soundly.

lol oh he tried to do that to Loma. Problem was that he was backed into a corner every time and brutalized. Couldn’t do it. That’s why Loma beat him 9-3.