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  • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

    Who cares? Was that Ramirez’s fault? The shot that landed had Espinoza out on his feet. Was that an accident? Kudos to Divino — for the umpteenth time — but that fight might've easily been over in round five if not for the bell.
    Nooo but you tried to make it seem like Espinoza had no chin got hit and went down but there was circumstances leading to the KD which played a roll.

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    • Originally posted by Regge View Post

      Nooo but you tried to make it seem like Espinoza had no chin got hit and went down but there was circumstances leading to the KD which played a roll.
      I didn’t mean to imply the man has no chin. In fact, Espinoza took quite a few flush shots last night — part of the reason why, despite the much higher volume from him, I still had the fight close going into the twelfth. Robeisy is a respectable puncher, but he’s no KO artist.

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      • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

        I didn’t mean to imply the man has no chin. In fact, Espinoza took quite a few flush shots last night — part of the reason why, despite the much higher volume from him, I still had the fight close going into the twelfth. Robeisy is a respectable puncher, but he’s no KO artist.
        Fair enough.
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        • Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

          I mean as opposed to standing in the pocket and eating every shot Espinoza threw?

          Ramirez had faster hands and was looking for one shot. The power difference was big. Robeisy ate like 800 shots and was never wobbled or hurt. He took a knee in the 12th because he was obviously exhausted and overwhelmed by Espinoza's activity.

          You don't have to be taller with a longer reach to attack inside and get in and get out. Robeisy had his way for 5, 6, 7 when Espinoza was hurt. But he still kept head hunting, trying to prove he could stop the guy with one big shot. Espinoza was coming forward and throwing, and Ramirez apparently just could not allow himself to stop trading and start to move and box.

          I watched the fight again. Espinoza is all heart. But he will get Fundora'd by any guy with power who moves and doesn't just stand right in front of him. Like Fundora, Espinoza has the physical advantages, but his chin is not great. Like Fundora, he will get caught and KO'd badly sooner than later.

          Like I said, I will wait for the rematch to really form an opinion on Espinoza. Ramirez was not ready, underestimated him and in a rematch, with a few adjustments, I think Ramirez stops him. We will see.
          the size difference and punches thrown disparity is a tough task for Ramirez to overcome. He’d have to knock this guy out I can’t see him winning a decision. Not based on what I saw last night.
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          • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

            I didn’t mean to imply the man has no chin. In fact, Espinoza took quite a few flush shots last night — part of the reason why, despite the much higher volume from him, I still had the fight close going into the twelfth. Robeisy is a respectable puncher, but he’s no KO artist.
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            • Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

              the size difference and punches thrown disparity is a tough task for Ramirez to overcome. He’d have to knock this guy out I can’t see him winning a decision. Not based on what I saw last night.
              I agree Espinoza power, volume and all around skill is a tough task for anyone at FW. His punch placement was superb to both body and head.

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              • Originally posted by b Murphington View Post

                Shoe box rings should be more common place they make for good action.

                Would suck for all boxers who like to incorporate lots of movement, but could you imagine the types of wars we would have?
                Larry Merchant shares your sentiment.

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                • Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                  the size difference and punches thrown disparity is a tough task for Ramirez to overcome. He’d have to knock this guy out I can’t see him winning a decision. Not based on what I saw last night.
                  I don't think he needs a ko, a couple of knockdown would work too, 30 seconds in that 5th rounds and it could have been over

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                  • Originally posted by garfios View Post
                    I don't think he needs a ko, a couple of knockdown would work too, 30 seconds in that 5th rounds and it could have been over
                    Again though that KD must be put into perspective. Espinoza was boxing Ramirez ears off for 4 and a half rds got over confident started switching stance got caught mid switch and payed for it. I doubt Ramirez would get another chance like that as long as Espinoza stays disciplined.
                    Last edited by Regge; 12-10-2023, 06:47 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Regge View Post

                      I agree Espinoza power, volume and all around skill is a tough task for anyone at FW. His punch placement was superb to both body and head.
                      Now as an undefeated world champion, his confidence is going to be through the roof, making his style an even bigger task to have to deal with. Tough out for anyone for sure

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