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  • #81
    Originally posted by pollywog View Post

    Nobody fights guys who weigh wayyyy more than them so how are they expected to knock them out ?
    That's part of Wilder's point. The HW division is different, and that's usually where the real "Face of Boxing" will reside. It happens often at HW. Wilder knocked way more of them out. It's futile to debate it. None of that has anything to do with this Parker fight though. They are both in a different space than earlier in their careers.
    Last edited by MastaBlasta; 12-12-2023, 08:55 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

      The blathering aside, and the long history of sop****ric posting forgiven; you may be right.

      You very well may, indeed.

      In 12 days, we'll know a good deal more that we do today.

      Wilder's "Struggling" has, to date at least; never amouted to a hill of beans; as the clean KNOCKOUTS came.
      He was never faced a man that he didn't at least fight a draw with

      Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, The Klitschko Brothers, Joshua, Ruiz........cannot make that claim.

      Those guys fought better fighters then Wilder and Fury is only undefeated for two reasons .

      1. He takes soft fights in between tough ones .
      2 . He was gifted an early fight in his career that he knew he had to go back and redeem himself with .

      Wilder has not fought anyone proven and won worth noting he has never faced Ortiz at his peak ,no one of note has because that was 2015 ,three years or so before Wilder fought him .

      Parker would be his best win to date and it’s 2023 now .

      Wallin is on a far better momentum wave then Parker bc he defeated Gassiev and has stood up to Fury actually better then Wilder had . Joshua should make that fight look easy , if Wilder has an easier time with Parker that’s a greater accomplishment for him and he’s not all of a sudden that guy bc he’s supposed to win . However as always Wallin is a killer now so watch everyone’s demeanor change should Joshua bulldoze him as usual .
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-12-2023, 09:03 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
        He’s not wrong.

        but he’s not respected cus he will forever be the black champ that got his head bashed in by an unskilled far white guy.
        Why do you have to make it about race? Wilder repeatedly puts his foot in his mouth by talking about himself like a god incarnate, even after he got bashed around the ring by that unskilled white guy. I guess you meant fat white guy which is true but you can't say Fury has no skill. He's just not disciplined which was clearly evident in the Ngannou fight. Wilder is a massive puncher but his skills are very limited, regardless of how you look at it. His power has bailed him out many times in the past.
        Listening to Wilder speak is like hearing a toddler attempt to string a sentence together for the first time because he's just that inarticulate. Sure athletes don't have to have a high intellectual capacity but Wilder likes to pretend he's eloquent and articulate. The problem is he doesn't even know what he's saying sometimes and often comes off sounding English is his second language. Personally I don't care whether an athlete has a high IQ or not but Wilder continues to act like he's an educated scholar and it makes him sound worse off for his effort. He needs to perform in the ring against high level competition and stop trying to act like he's some sort of superior human specimen.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

          Boxing doesnt really seem to reach many casuals anymore, and when it does that third point comes into play. Like Highlander, there can be only one....after losing to Fury, he doesnt get to be that one.
          yeah fair, can totally see that angle

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Clegg View Post
            AJ beat Andy Ruiz despite being outweighed by 150lbs.
            *1500

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            • #86
              Bummy assed HW div !!!!
              Toney, right now, can lay waste to these clowns.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by theface07 View Post

                Why do you have to make it about race? Wilder repeatedly puts his foot in his mouth by talking about himself like a god incarnate, even after he got bashed around the ring by that unskilled white guy. I guess you meant fat white guy which is true but you can't say Fury has no skill. He's just not disciplined which was clearly evident in the Ngannou fight. Wilder is a massive puncher but his skills are very limited, regardless of how you look at it. His power has bailed him out many times in the past.
                Listening to Wilder speak is like hearing a toddler attempt to string a sentence together for the first time because he's just that inarticulate. Sure athletes don't have to have a high intellectual capacity but Wilder likes to pretend he's eloquent and articulate. The problem is he doesn't even know what he's saying sometimes and often comes off sounding English is his second language. Personally I don't care whether an athlete has a high IQ or not but Wilder continues to act like he's an educated scholar and it makes him sound worse off for his effort. He needs to perform in the ring against high level competition and stop trying to act like he's some sort of superior human specimen.


                historically the black champ always beat the white contender all the way back to Joe Louis.


                now Fury came to America and bashed up Wilder multiple times in front of Americans. he is a disgrace to americans and blacks.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



                  historically the black champ always beat the white contender all the way back to Joe Louis.


                  now Fury came to America and bashed up Wilder multiple times in front of Americans. he is a disgrace to americans and blacks.
                  Things change, times change. History doesn't always repeat itself. You have to remember, there would likely be many more high level African American heavyweight boxers if boxing didn't lose so much popularity in the Mayweather era and the NFL and NBA didn't offer an insane amount of money to its players.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by theface07 View Post

                    Things change, times change. History doesn't always repeat itself. You have to remember, there would likely be many more high level African American heavyweight boxers if boxing didn't lose so much popularity in the Mayweather era and the NFL and NBA didn't offer an insane amount of money to its players.


                    I’m telling you why Wilder will never be the face of boxing.


                    A white man stood over his unconscious body twice.

                    He has no fan base at this point

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



                      I’m telling you why Wilder will never be the face of boxing.


                      A white man stood over his unconscious body twice.

                      He has no fan base at this point
                      I agree with him not being the face of boxing. I think I misunderstood your post. I do think he still has a fan base though. He's lost fans undoubtedly but when you have the power Wilder does, people are always interested in seeing if he's going to land that big right hand. He's been way too inactive lately but I would like to see how he does against Parker who's been more active but got beat up bad against Joyce. Both of them have taken damage in their biggest fights so I'm curious to see if Wilder can blast Parker out like most people think he will.

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