Comments Thread For: Amanda Serrano: The WBC Refused To Evolve The Sport For Equality; So, I am Relinquishing Their Title

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at my house.

Result: Wife 12 round UD (3 mins rounds of course)

[Tails]

I can respect Serranos decision and find it really admirable that she is standing firm on her stance.

I do believe 3 minute rounds are needed for women's boxing to advance forward and grow overall. The longer rounds make a huge difference in how a fight plays out. If I remember correctly that Estrada and Esparza fight was 3 minute rounds and the extra minute played a factor.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

dont do that

at my house.

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That study is interesting. Women are thicker headed. I'm sending that to my wife.

dont do that

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Here you are talking about facts, but the facts are actually that when the comparative size was actually scientifically studied in 2008, women's skulls proved to be thicker than those of men, and men may actually be at a higher risk of head injury, especially since men hit harder.

As far as density goes, younger women have a greater increase in bone mass than men relative to muscle volume, and similar density, where men develop more cross-sectional area. Women's bone density does tend to increase faster post menopause, so they'll probably have more issues as they age, but that's true for men also. That little detail from a peer-reviewed study published the 2011 Journal of Osteoporosis.

Kinda ironic that someone trying to say that facts matter got so many of them wrong.

Here is a study showing that men's bones are far more dense and strong than a woman's bones.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15746999/

Ironically the point you are making about a woman's skull being a bit thicker....all thickheaded jokes aside....make it even worse for a female boxer. A man has thicker bones in the jaw. Along with far more naturally dense muscle fibers. Meaning that a man can take more punishment, with less of the shock absorbed by the brain, as the force is absorbed by the jaw muscle and bone far more.

Women have far less muscled jaws with smaller bones. So when they get hit by less power, it translates to the skull with alot more force. Meaning the brain is bouncing around. In boxing, most shots are taken to the jaw and face, not the skull. So thanks for correcting me, it is worse than I thought. The brain damage occurs from multiple shots to the jaw, chins, nose, etc. So the skull thickness is basically irrelevant, as the brain bouncing around in the skull from the impact is the cause of brain damage.

That study is interesting. Women are thicker headed. I'm sending that to my wife.

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Here you are talking about facts, but the facts are actually that when the comparative size was actually scientifically studied in 2008, women's skulls proved to be thicker than those of men, and men may actually be at a higher risk of head injury, especially since men hit harder.

As far as density goes, younger women have a greater increase in bone mass than men relative to muscle volume, and similar density, where men develop more cross-sectional area. Women's bone density does tend to increase faster post menopause, so they'll probably have more issues as they age, but that's true for men also. That little detail from a peer-reviewed study published the 2011 Journal of Osteoporosis.

Kinda ironic that someone trying to say that facts matter got so many of them wrong.

u have nailed it, i knew women were thick headed and dense

[crimsonfalcon07]

It is really a bad scenario for women. Because they don't hit as hard, and their skulls and bones are far less dense than a males.

But we should support Serrano because, like, facts don't matter and, like, woke, bruh.

Here you are talking about facts, but the facts are actually that when the comparative size was actually scientifically studied in 2008, women's skulls proved to be thicker than those of men, and men may actually be at a higher risk of head injury, especially since men hit harder.

As far as density goes, younger women have a greater increase in bone mass than men relative to muscle volume, and similar density, where men develop more cross-sectional area. Women's bone density does tend to increase faster post menopause, so they'll probably have more issues as they age, but that's true for men also. That little detail from a peer-reviewed study published the 2011 Journal of Osteoporosis.

Kinda ironic that someone trying to say that facts matter got so many of them wrong.

[ELPacman]

Haha, the split among her being right and wrong is awesome. I can see valid points with both directions. Rare that ever happens around here.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

we also have to take into consideration that women hit less hard than men so potentially less damage but whether this is the major factor in it i dont know

they already know what the injury rate is for women boxers so if they make the change it can be monitored, too late for some if it goes up tho

Volume of punches matters alot more in terms of risk of brain damaging the other fighter. Far better to get hit really hard a few times and stopped, a sustained volley of medium power punches allows the opponent to keep fighting and stay on their feet, thus taking more and more damage.

Accumulation is the largest factor by far in death during a boxing match. That's why refs stop fights where one guy seems on his feet and ok, but are sustaining huge amounts of shots.

It is really a bad scenario for women. Because they don't hit as hard, and their skulls and bones are far less dense than a males.

But we should support Serrano because, like, facts don't matter and, like, woke, bruh.

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Right. It almost seems like people supporting this want to see women get more damaged.

Women can be strong, intelligent and compete against each other. Men are biologically made to be strong, protect, fight.

If women want to box, that is their choice. It is a free country. But their bones break alot easier, and their skulls aren't as thick, if their brain gets knocked around like a man's, they exponentially increase their risk of permanent brain damage.

When woke meets biological fact, idiocy and name calling ensue.

we also have to take into consideration that women hit less hard than men so potentially less damage but whether this is the major factor in it i dont know

they already know what the injury rate is for women boxers so if they make the change it can be monitored, too late for some if it goes up tho