How will Lomachenko's career will be remembered after he retires.

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  • Malvado
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    #21
    Originally posted by HandsofIron
    Arguably, the greatest Jr. Lightweight of all time.
    Resume wise that's debatable since he hasn't beaten an ATG at 130 like let's say Pacquiao, Arguello and Mayweather have done. Chico Corrales has an undderated wins over Casamayor, Freitas and Castillo so even he has a better claim at super featherweight.

    Nonetheless, during his 12-3 (9 KOs) championship fights, he has knocked out 5 out of 5 at super featherweights (Martinez, Walters, Sosa, Marriage and Rigondeaux). He would had likely made easy work of today's contenders Roach, Garcia, Robson, Cordina, Foster and Navarrete.

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    • mcdonalds
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      #22
      Originally posted by HandsofIron
      Arguably, the greatest Jr. Lightweight of all time.
      What's his best win at 130???

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        #23
        Originally posted by mcdonalds

        What's his best win at 130???
        Walters and Rigondeaux

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          #24
          He beat himself most times. All of his fights that he officially lost, he had all the momentum by the end of the fight. Started too slow vs Salido, gave away 7 rounds vs Lopez, and beat the brakes off Haney. I think he might have stopped Haney if he hadn't taken his foot off the gas pedal. I understand the Salido one as that was so early on, but there's been so many fights that, just come on man.

          Like, he knew he was injured for the Lopez fight. Why not just postpone? Too arrogant, thinking he could win with one arm and give away 7 rounds to boot. Should have stopped Commey. Where was the killer instinct? Should have stepped on the gas against Haney and left it all in the ring. Not like Haney hits hard enough to risk a stoppage loss, and dominating and stopping Haney would have been a heck of a statement.

          One of my favorite fighters and very cerebral about his style. But I think I'll always feel some regret that he didn't make his career MORE because of those decisions he made.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy

            Walters and Rigondeaux
            Two guys who were never champs at 130 and will never be champs at 130

            Nice

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              #26
              Originally posted by mcdonalds

              Two guys who were never champs at 130 and will never be champs at 130

              Nice
              He had choices like Gervonta Davis and Mikey Garcia during his prime. But none of them were really pushing for the big fights, despite their talent.
              Last edited by Malvado; 12-05-2023, 07:12 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Feroz

                He had choices like Gervonta Davis and Mikey Garcia during his prime. But none of them were really pushing for the big fights, despite their talent.
                How is he arguably the greatest 130 ever when his best wins at 130 are guys who have never done anything at all at 130?

                My point exactly

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds

                  Two guys who were never champs at 130 and will never be champs at 130

                  Nice
                  what? Nicholas was the WBA champ.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    what? Nicholas was the WBA champ.
                    Solid win considering how he was the first to KO a prime Nonito Donaire.

                    He is a ATG talent for sure but I couldn't say he is in the top 5 best at 126 to 135 despite his impressive win streak. Even at lightweight were he has more consistent top wins.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Feroz

                      Solid win considering how he was the first to KO a prime Nonito Donaire.

                      He is a ATG talent for sure but I couldn't say he is in the top 5 best at 126 to 135 despite his impressive win streak. Even at lightweight were he has more consistent top wins.
                      Well, it will be debated for years to come, I'm sure. However, in my mind, Loma is the undisputed champ of the lightweight division, so I have him already as an ATG.

                      I can't give guys credit for blatant robberies, and likewise, I can't take away from guys who were robbed. I just can't do it. It's kind of funny because I used to get into an argument with the Canelo fans about Golvokin being the champ and having beat Canelo twice. Now, nobody even argues it anymore. It's just accepted.

                      I imagine in time, it will be the same with Loma.

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