Comments Thread For: Froch: Deontay Wilder Knocks Anthony Joshua Spark Out in One Round

[Willow The Wisp]

You're a delusional hater that gets all emotional about AJ because he makes you insecure. You made a ****** point and you're now running away. You can tell you're an American.

How much juice do you think was in the systems of Holyfield, Jones and Toney combined? An awful lot going by the evidence, that's for sure.

It's OK, i've made my point. You can crawl away now.

Neither of you align very often with how I think, but when you're up against someone who thinks that James Toney, a guy on my short list of IBHOF members who should NOT be in; well, I suppose I find you with me in the same trench.

But that quip about "and you're now running away. You can tell you're an American".

You want to expand on that for us a little?
I'm smelling something rotten there.

[Willow The Wisp]

I've been following for over 30 years. I have a huge collection of fights from many eras. They're my pride and joy.

I'm very comfortable. And you? To me you seem very uneasy. Why.

I am uneasy. I have a real distaste for misinformation, ******ity, historical revisionism.
Sometimes, the general display of these makes me chuckle. Sometimes uneasy.


"....All Wlad (Klitschko) is, is a guy who got beat by Sanders and Brewster and the like (Ross Puritty, 24-13-1). A bit like Ali, all he is is a guy who lost to Norton 3 times (Once, actually) and Young (W UD, actually, 72-65, 70-68, 71-64) even though neither of them were world class".

What can anyone say?

[IronDanHamza]

yeah, Joshua wasn't juicing lol. Look at all those Matchroom boxers failing tests.

Toney is a proven drug cheat.

Joshua juicing is no more than speculation.

You can't compare the two.

Oh and by the way, Toney and Usyk are no where near the same size.

[wrecksracer]

Toney is a proven drug cheat.

Joshua juicing is no more than speculation.

You can't compare the two.

Oh and by the way, Toney and Usyk are no where near the same size.

That bodybuilder physique is pretty su****ious. Yeah, it's speculation. Just like Evander Holyfield. He never peeed hot, either. Good point about Toney and Usyk. Who would you pick to win, the Toney that fought Jirov or the Usyk that fought Breidis?

[IronDanHamza]

That bodybuilder physique is pretty su****ious. Yeah, it's speculation. Just like Evander Holyfield. He never peeed hot, either. Good point about Toney and Usyk. Who would you pick to win, the Toney that fought Jirov or the Usyk that fought Breidis?

Precisely. Toney is a proven cheat, AJ isn't.


Obviously Usyk 100 times out of 100. They are two totally different levels of a fighter #1, #2 Toney had 1 fight at Cruiserweight where he had a close fight with one of the weakest title holders there historically whereas Usyk cleaned out the best Crusier era there's been.

It's not a fair comparison. Toney only ever achieved anything notable at 160 and 168 and even that is few and far between really.

[wrecksracer]

Precisely. Toney is a proven cheat, AJ isn't.


Obviously Usyk 100 times out of 100. They are two totally different levels of a fighter #1, #2 Toney had 1 fight at Cruiserweight where he had a close fight with one of the weakest title holders there historically whereas Usyk cleaned out the best Crusier era there's been.

It's not a fair comparison. Toney only ever achieved anything notable at 160 and 168 and even that is few and far between really.

Beating Jirov for the Cruiserweight championship wasn't an achievement for Toney? It's considered one of the best Cruiserweight fights ever.

[IronDanHamza]

Beating Jirov for the Cruiserweight championship wasn't an achievement for Toney? It's considered one of the best Cruiserweight fights ever.

Not particularly. Jirov is one of the weakest title holders in history and he won a close fight with him. Good win but hardly something to write home about.

Comparing him to Usyk is not a fair comparison there are two different caliber of fighter.

[wrecksracer]

Not particularly. Jirov is one of the weakest title holders in history and he won a close fight with him. Good win but hardly something to write home about.

Comparing him to Usyk is not a fair comparison there are two different caliber of fighter.

James Toney: ATG. Usyk:HOF

[IronDanHamza]

James Toney: ATG. Usyk:HOF

Toney's not an ATG He didn't even get into the HOF on the first Ballot.

Uysk is far and beyond the greatest Crusierweight of all time, now a legit unfied Heavyweight Champion.

Two totally different levels of fighters and the chances of Toney even being competitive with Usyk is entirely zero.

[wrecksracer]

Toney's not an ATG He didn't even get into the HOF on the first Ballot.

Uysk is far and beyond the greatest Crusierweight of all time, now a legit unfied Heavyweight Champion.

Two totally different levels of fighters and the chances of Toney even being competitive with Usyk is entirely zero.

You think Usyk is a better Cruiserweight than Holyfield? Holyfield beat some real fighters at Cruiserweight. Not schlubs like Huck, Breidis , and Gassiev.