If a 188 Pounder Could Knock Out Vintage Ali How is He Great?

[koboy]

coconut ice cream ftw!

Almost forgot that one. Mmmmmm!

[Jim Jeffries]

Foreman was an arm puncher who got beat by Tommy HIV Gunn, and Joe knocked ali down where he again used smelling salts to keep going. Sorry, but once a cheater, always a cheater. Ali couldnt beat wepner without cheating. What a bum. A complete coward and a known ****sexual.

Alright, the Foreman was an arm puncher comment was pretty funny. Not bad for a troll.

Ali wasn't yet in his prime for the Cooper fight BTW.

[Dr. Ironfist]

Alright, the Foreman was an arm puncher comment was pretty funny. Not bad for a troll.

Ali wasn't yet in his prime for the Cooper fight BTW.

Ahh boxing fans and their prime. When was Ali in his prime? When he beat Foreman which is his best win. Sorry past prime Joe Frazier who only won 5 of his last 10 fights and looked like garbage and had tons of medical problems doesnt count. Oh and what happend a whole 80 days after Foreman? Oh yeah Ali had to cheat to beat Chuck Wepner. What a coward. Sorry, you arent the greatest if you are a heavyweight who 40% of the time fought people under 200 lbs. People talk about pbf, but at least his opponents are in a couple pounds of him when they fought. Ali was a coward. Never could beat Ken Norton. HOw is he great if he couldnt beat Norton. Sorry, rigged fights and paid off judges don't make you great.

[derkaiser91]

This is the most retarted thread of all time....first of all..henry cooper never knocked out ALi, Ali was dropped for 2 seconds then got straight back up....ALi was never in his career knocked out cold....secondly the guy who started this thread is probably some skinhead white guy who hates blacks...so go **** yourself mate

[Jim Jeffries]

Ahh boxing fans and their prime. When was Ali in his prime? When he beat Foreman which is his best win. Sorry past prime Joe Frazier who only won 5 of his last 10 fights and looked like garbage and had tons of medical problems doesnt count. Oh and what happend a whole 80 days after Foreman? Oh yeah Ali had to cheat to beat Chuck Wepner. What a coward. Sorry, you arent the greatest if you are a heavyweight who 40% of the time fought people under 200 lbs. People talk about pbf, but at least his opponents are in a couple pounds of him when they fought. Ali was a coward. Never could beat Ken Norton. HOw is he great if he couldnt beat Norton. Sorry, rigged fights and paid off judges don't make you great.

The first Cooper fight was in 63. I'd say Ali's prime was 66-67, would've been much longer, but for the 3 1/2 year chunk missing because of ineligibility. Ali's best wins came before and after his prime, part of the reason he is considered to be so great.

[Scott9945]

Ahh boxing fans and their prime. When was Ali in his prime? When he beat Foreman which is his best win. Sorry past prime Joe Frazier who only won 5 of his last 10 fights and looked like garbage and had tons of medical problems doesnt count. Oh and what happend a whole 80 days after Foreman? Oh yeah Ali had to cheat to beat Chuck Wepner. What a coward. Sorry, you arent the greatest if you are a heavyweight who 40% of the time fought people under 200 lbs. People talk about pbf, but at least his opponents are in a couple pounds of him when they fought. Ali was a coward. Never could beat Ken Norton. HOw is he great if he couldnt beat Norton. Sorry, rigged fights and paid off judges don't make you great.

You sound very bitter and totally irrational.

[The Gully Gad]

TS needs a Tuna Melt then he will see the Light...

[Dr. Ironfist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnEDM4EC5kw

yeah got up in 2 seconds. Then tried to get up in his corner and punch Dundee. Dude had no clue where he was. Bowed down to the force of the left hook of a 188 pounded. 188 pounds. Imagine if Vitali got knocked down by a 188 pounder. what a joke. Ali was a known ****sexual. It is no coincidence he retired around the time AIDS was spreading or that he had fights in Africa. Its a fact. Dude has AIDS.

You can see cheating clearly in this video at 3:40 which no one has commented on. Apparently cheating is ok...so long as youre American. But if you are Mexican who cares. 188 pounder knocked Ali into next century. Haha if Ali was in his prime in the mid 60's who did he beat? A paid off Sonny Liston? Good job. Oh is that when he beat 84 year old Archie Moore. Wow...stiff comp there. Well at least he didnt fight any guys who got shot in the stomach right before the fight and had an intestine removed...oh wait...Ali did that too. Oh and he got knocked down all the time and won tons of controversial decisions? What a joke. He is tied with Tommy Morrison as the greatest boxer with AIDS. Both beat Foreman and thats where the story ends for both of them.

If a 188 pounder can knock you off your feet and force you to cheat, which smellin salt is, funny how no one even debates that or has any response for that, then you arent the greatest heavyweight. Ray Austin would KO1 Ali. Guy was completely overrated like all those bums in the 70s? What the greatest olympian of all time Mark Spitz wouldnt even make states in a California Highschool with his olympic times, but boxing...thats a sport where athletes dont get better.

188 pounds of weakness took Ali out. What a coward and a bum.

[Dr. Ironfist]

This is the most retarted thread of all time....first of all..henry cooper never knocked out ALi, Ali was dropped for 2 seconds then got straight back up....ALi was never in his career knocked out cold....secondly the guy who started this thread is probably some skinhead white guy who hates blacks...so go **** yourself mate

So smelling salts arent illegal? Didnt mention that.

I wont even point out the irony in misspelling ******ed

Ali again got up, walked out of it to his corner, where he collapsed and then stood up and tried to punch ali.

Of course Ali wasnt knocked out cold, 90% of his matches were fixed dude.

[Inthewhitegirls]

Liston/Ali II was rigged and Foreman was drugged. Oh and rope a dope on overly loosened ropes.

Who knows what else he did illegally.