Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Says Garcia Asked For 143-Pound Catchweight vs. Duarte, Wonders 'Why Not At 140, It's Concerning'

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It’s a welterweight fight technically, but we all know guys compete a lb or even few lbs higher all the time. This isn't THAT wild lol. I mean look at the B side in this fight. Oscar is at 135 but 2 of his last 4 fights were over the 135 limit. And I'm sure no one gaf, but cuz Ryan is a big name suddenly this is some kind of big deal. It’s lnot a big deal tho. And if it was a big deal, like some are pretending, the fight wouldn't be happening.

A lb over is one thing. This is closer to 10 pounds over for Duarte from his last fight.

But if the fighters negotiate it and are happy with the money being paid then that’s their call. It’s just fair to question what weight Ryan really functions best at, where his discipline level is, and how drained he might have been for Tank.

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A boxer shouldn't gaf about legacy. It’s beyond their control. Legacy oddly gets decided by people who don't box & oftentimes by people who've never boxed at all.

I disagree. Wanting to have a place in boxing history is a fine motivating factor and can give a fighter drive to be great.

It’s ok to be driven by money too. But fans certainly shouldn’t gaf about a fighter’s wallet.

[Boxviewer]

Look, if Ryan didn’t accept the catchweight then there would have been no fight. Because Tank is a btch like that.

My point is how much credit do we want to give Gervonta for that win? Ryan must have been quite drained at 136 if he doesn’t even make 140 now, only months later. AFTER a training camp.

Guy, the only thing it says is that Cryan is a ***** who complains after he was given a life changing payday. He desperately wanted the big bag of money. Remember Tank called his bluff at 135 in the past but he ran. Then after he has bulked up he beame courageous enough to take the fight but then wanted to weight bully him. But Tank ain't a fool.

That weak mind is what makes him to face another small guy from 135 instead of him to face guys of his size at 140 and above since he can only make plus 140. He's only good at bullying small guys.

He was mandatory to then LW WBC champion Haney but ran. BTW, he was bigger and heavier than Tank and yet got destroyed within 7.

Cryan and his supporters are shameless for not fighting real 140 and 147 guys and yet complaining that he can't make 136 nor even 140. You folks are making fool of yourselves.

[James Hunt]

they shouldnt have let him drain himself and lose to tank. that was bad promoting. especially when garcia was probably the a-side in reality with his popularity. a desperate move from desperate people. they should have called out tank over and over for a fight at 140 no rehydro clause. tank obviously never would have taken it but they could have slammed him for beign a ducker like loma did. they could have said he fought barrios at 140 but wont fight me what a coward. instead they caved into all of tanks demands and allowed themselves to be drained. total ******ity. like a replay of floyd-canelo. they should be stripped of their promoters license for such incompetence.

Garcia and Lupe "Haymon's lap-dog" Valencia "negotiated" the deal totally by themselves, without any involvement of GBP.
Maybe that's the reason for their absence at the post-fight presser, in a sense of "You didn't need us when making the deal, you don't deserve us now".
Though Lupe was also absent. Where was he? Opening champagnes with Haymon?

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Guy, the only thing it says is that Cryan is a ***** who complains after he was given a life changing payday. He desperately wanted the big bag of money. Remember Tank called his bluff at 135 in the past but he ran. Then after he has bulked up he beame courageous enough to take the fight but then wanted to weight bully him. But Tank ain't a fool.

That weak mind is what makes him to face another small guy from 135 instead of him to face guys of his size at 140 and above since he can only make plus 140. He's only good at bullying small guys.

He was mandatory to then LW WBC champion Haney but ran. BTW, he was bigger and heavier than Tank and yet got destroyed within 7.

Cryan and his supporters are shameless for not fighting real 140 and 147 guys and yet complaining that he can't make 136 nor even 140. You folks are making fool of yourselves.

Tank fought Mario Barrios at 140 but had to catchweight and rehydration clause Ryan. That’s pretty shameless of Gervonta.

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Tank fought Mario Barrios at 140 but had to catchweight and rehydration clause Ryan. That’s pretty shameless of Gervonta.

I would say that's smart and shows he had more respect for the danger that Ryan posed.

If the weight was problem for Ryan then that shows he was trying to bully a smaller man so both guys are equally shameless. This is why I don't think catch weights are necessarily a bad thing. Each fighter has their preferred weight where they would have the advantage and they meet somewhere in the middle.

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I would say that's smart and shows he had more respect for the danger that Ryan posed.

If the weight was problem for Ryan then that shows he was trying to bully a smaller man so both guys are equally shameless. This is why I don't think catch weights are necessarily a bad thing. Each fighter has their preferred weight where they would have the advantage and they meet somewhere in the middle.

Tank had no problem fighting at 140 before Ryan.

But yeah, I guess he is smart for draining Ryan and adding a rehydration clause on top of that. And Ryan was foolish to agree to it but he really wanted a big fight.

[Apollo7]

Tank had no problem fighting at 140 before Ryan.

But yeah, I guess he is smart for draining Ryan and adding a rehydration clause on top of that. And Ryan was foolish to agree to it but he really wanted a big fight.

He had no problem against a different opponent, doesn't mean he wouldn't have been at a size disadvantage against Garcia. Tank doesn't have to disadvantage himself if he doesn't want to.

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He had no problem against a different opponent, doesn't mean he wouldn't have been at a size disadvantage against Garcia. Tank doesn't have to disadvantage himself if he doesn't want to.

Tank considered Ryan more of a threat at 140 than Barrios. That much seems clear.

[kiaba360]

Tank fought Mario Barrios at 140 but had to catchweight and rehydration clause Ryan. That’s pretty shameless of Gervonta.

He hit Barrios with a rehydration clause too.