Prime Jones versus Prime Calzaghe ... (Let's End It Here)

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  • THE REED
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    #41
    Originally posted by baracuda
    you would expect that guys with rjj and bhop's skills would dominate or atleast outhustle a guy who is feather fisted like joe......as light puncher as joe was or is, they were still too cautios to throw punches....thats why joe won by points......joes mental game played a role there imo.....thats is why even 12 years ago, i still could see joe winning....
    Because you had a roy who held his hands up because he didnt have the stamina at 40... to move like he did when he was 28... or have the stamina to have the punch output like he did.. he wasnt a volume puncher by any means but he sure as hell used to throw a lot more.. Roy now isnt close to the same fighter, he once was... not even in the same category.

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    • The Underboss
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      #42
      Reed, hit me up with some green .

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      • Dan...
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        #43
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        Because you had a roy who held his hands up because he didnt have the stamina at 40... to move like he did when he was 28... or have the stamina to have the punch output like he did.. he wasnt a volume puncher by any means but he sure as hell used to throw a lot more.. Roy now isnt close to the same fighter, he once was... not even in the same category.
        LOL.

        Why the *** do you attempt to debate this **** with these morons?

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        • baracuda
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          #44
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          Because you had a roy who held his hands up because he didnt have the stamina at 40... to move like he did when he was 28... or have the stamina to have the punch output like he did.. he wasnt a volume puncher by any means but he sure as hell used to throw a lot more.. Roy now isnt close to the same fighter, he once was... not even in the same category.
          you prolly right about the stamina thing.....even in the first tarver fight i thought he was'nt the same rjj...the thing is tho, is not really a physical issue why i see joe winning ,its more about mental........he's excellent at that.....not sayin zaghe would win but i would'nt count him out either......like i said, rjj skills>>>> joe's prime or no prime....i just think joe's more intelleligent!

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          • THE REED
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            #45
            Originally posted by baracuda
            you prolly right about the stamina thing.....even in the first tarver fight i thought he was'nt the same rjj...the thing is tho, is not really a physical issue why i see joe winning ,its more about mental........he's excellent at that.....not sayin zaghe would win but i would'nt count him out either......like i said, rjj skills>>>> joe's prime or no prime....i just think joe's more intelleligent!
            Roys just as intelligent, just at 40.. and being what he had already been through, he didnt have the physical to carry out the mental...

            Put a 28 yr old Roy in there... give Roy the young prime peak physical to go along with his skills... see if Joe's "workrate" adds up.

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            • bunce101
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              #46
              roy jones ftw

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              • baracuda
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dan...
                LOL.

                Why the *** do you attempt to debate this **** with these morons?
                and why do you even waste your time postin **** like this.....why dont you counter it if were such morons and put us in our place?....

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                • The Underboss
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                  #48
                  Some of you guys are doubting RJ because he's no longer in his prime...

                  He might have lost his power and reflexes, but his speed is still there, he dominated Lacy all through the fight, he couldn't touch Roy at all.

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                  • baracuda
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    Roys just as intelligent, just at 40.. and being what he had already been through, he didnt have the physical to carry out the mental...

                    Put a 28 yr old Roy in there... give Roy the young prime peak physical to go along with his skills... see if Joe's "workrate" adds up.
                    maybe......but who knows who wins in their primes......it would've been good if we can settle it with their resumees but we cant.......in that case, rjj wins by a wide margin....the fact is joe beat a past prime rjj as he was....

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                    • BEEHOP
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                      #50
                      Look at all the guys who picked Calzahge.. just the usual bunch.

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