Floyd Mayweather Should Fight Shane Mosley, Says Arum

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  • gqjohnb
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    #361
    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
    Yes, an honest to goodness observation...we knew what we're looking at & not new to boxing...as a boxing fan i know what is a clear win & a close fight...as i review that many times no doubt Castillo was the clear winner of that fight...Compubox analysis & result can testify to that, it's not only my own analysis & observation...
    I've been in this sport viewing or participating since I was 9 years old fam I'm not new to the sport and I saw a close fight and I too am not the only one who made that analysis.

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      #362
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      doesn't matter my point still stands... clean punching is the main criteria
      It is still one of four, so the person who lands the most clean punches does not necessarily win, because there are four critieria, not one. The other three are also taken into account.

      And more importantly the punch stats do not measure clean punching. It's impossible to discuss anything intelligently with you because it's like talking to a brick wall. You simply ignore points that other people make and you keep repeating things that have already been shown to be irrelevant or misleading or false. It's like trying to talk to a robot. Snap out of your robotic posting mode and start behaving like a normal human.

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      the only dudes who really know how clean or how powerful a punch is are teh 2 guys in the ring.
      That's a gross exaggeration. If you really can't tell the difference between a pitty pat punch and a solid power punch thrown with the full weight of the body behind it; or between one that lands cleanly and a glancing blow, then you know nothing about boxing.

      And to the extent that it's true, all that means is that there is no objective way to judge a fight. Which is true. There isn't. That's why they have three judges. Nevertheless, how clean and powerful the punches are is the most important criteria that fights are judged on. How many there are is not a criteria at all. As you admitted above. And judging that is precisely what the judges are paid to do.

      Fights are NOT judged on punch stats at all, never have been and never will be. And if you know anything about boxing you know that's true, so why are you pretending to be completely ignorant about boxing, when you clearly are not really? Do you do this because you just enjoy winding people up for the sake of it?

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      in light of that, we must consider punch stats as supplemental.
      They are not supplemental, they are completely irrelevant. Based on punch stats, Calzaghe would have won every single round against Hopkins other than the first round. But every boxing expert in the world agreed that that fight was extremely close and many scored it very narrowly to Hopkins. The reason is that most of Calzaghe's punches did not land cleanly, many of those that the stats said landed were actually blocked, and even those that did land cleanly mostly had very litte power

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      you see a jab... you press the button. you see a jab miss, you push the button. etc... you know what a jab looks like when it hits. you know what a jab looks like when it misses.
      Don't be so idiotic. It's extremely difficult to tell, without slow motion, which punches are blocked, which land but are only glancing blows, and which land cleanly. That's why such a small proportion of punches that land score points in the Olympics (in which punch stats are the effective criteria), because all three judges have to see the punch land in order for it to count, and that only happens with a minority of the punches that actually land.

      And the punches that the stats call power punches do not necessarily have any power in them at all, because they class anything that isn't a jab as a "power punch", including the weakest of Calzaghe's slaps. Cotto has knocked people down with his jab. Many so-called "power punches" are far less powerful than Cotto's jabs.

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      lolz.... PRican isn't a race.
      Xenophobia and racism are functionally identical. You may as well claim that anti-semitism isn't racism because it's based on religion rather than race. Racism and xenophobia are both manifestations of extreme prejudice. Neither is better than the other. Neither is worse than the other. Not only are you an extreme xenophobe, which is every bit as bad as being an extreme racist, but you're an extreme pedant as well.

      And if you do a google search for "how boxing is scored" you'll find several sites quoting 25%, all based in the US.

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      *cough* Home town decision. *cough*
      Do you really think that every boxing writer in the world including The Ring's comes from Cotto's hometown?
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-09-2009, 07:00 PM.

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      • jkaisen41
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        #363
        I always thought Arum would knew Floyd...

        Damn... Floyd has a pair of g****fruits between the legs of his... no wonder he's strutting like a king *looooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

        Get it done... for Arum... Uncle Bob thinks that Mosley has the best chance to beat Mayweather... do it 4 Bob

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          #364
          bumped

          for Bob Arum

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            #365
            Originally posted by jkaisen41
            bumped

            for Bob Arum
            bump for actual developments...

            damn... Cotto probably beats him... Pacquiao probably beats him... but Mosley beats him...

            He fights the guy who beats him... damn, this man is brave... will be heard for Arum to keep his own campaign going now huh?

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              #366

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                #367
                Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                Arum is correct. PBF vs Shane needs to happen.
                HEY CLYDE.... HOW ARE YOU??

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                  #368
                  Originally posted by vErDuGo
                  wHY won't Mayweather fight Mosley or any top WW?
                  Mosley has been calling him out... in front of his face and the whole boxing world.
                  I don't know about you Mayweather fans,but it looks like Mayweather has a vagina.

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                  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                    #369
                    This thread was just bookmarked for bumpage....

                    lololololol

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                    • jqSide
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                      #370
                      Originally posted by jkaisen41
                      bump for actual developments...

                      damn... Cotto probably beats him... Pacquiao probably beats him... but Mosley beats him...

                      He fights the guy who beats him... damn, this man is brave... will be heard for Arum to keep his own campaign going now huh?
                      I don't see the point of resurrecting this thread if you're a Floyd fan especially when the fight between Mosley and May hasn't happened yet. It might just confirm what Arum says about PB.

                      Besides, the records are all over the place. PB was forced to fight Mosley because of a fight gone earthquake kaput.

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