Floyd Mayweather Should Fight Shane Mosley, Says Arum

[TOBYLEE1]

"Mosley doesn't seem the least bit upset with the decision. He says he felt it was a very close fight. Mosley admits to being buzzed every now and then by a Cotto left and thinks he hurt Cotto with a few shots as well."
http://boxing.about.com/b/2007/11/10...d-by-round.htm

Dude, you can't debate this guy. I was at that fight and no way I thought that Cotto was gonna win, is matter of fact I thought Mosley was gonna lay him out. Boy was I suprised by Cotto. But try to tell this to PullCounter and sometimes he is offensive to PR fighters and their fans. If you read he threads that is one thing he persists about. He can't be imparcial cause his biases

[Easy-E]

Dude, you can't debate this guy. I was at that fight and no way I thought that Cotto was gonna win, is matter of fact I thought Mosley was gonna lay him out. Boy was I suprised by Cotto. But try to tell this to PullCounter and sometimes he is offensive to PR fighters and their fans. If you read he threads that is one thing he persists about. He can't be imparcial cause his biases

yeah, he is a biased idiot.
But it is fun to prove him wrong.

[Pullcounter]

"Mosley doesn't seem the least bit upset with the decision. He says he felt it was a very close fight. Mosley admits to being buzzed every now and then by a Cotto left and thinks he hurt Cotto with a few shots as well."
http://boxing.about.com/b/2007/11/10...d-by-round.htm

the words "I lost" never came out of his mouth

Dude, you can't debate this guy. I was at that fight and no way I thought that Cotto was gonna win, is matter of fact I thought Mosley was gonna lay him out. Boy was I suprised by Cotto. But try to tell this to PullCounter and sometimes he is offensive to PR fighters and their fans. If you read he threads that is one thing he persists about. He can't be imparcial cause his biases

the punchstats are objective.

your perspective is subjective.

what should I trust? objective stats or your subjective commentary?

yeah, he is a biased idiot.
But it is fun to prove him wrong.

how am I wrong? check the numbers in the link of my sig!!!! did I miscount? prove me wrong with facts, not your opinion.

That was for who ever said that Castillo beat Floyd int the first fight. I learned not to answer any of your responses. You think that you opinion and reasoning is the only logic and also you are very biased when you like or dislike a fighter. There is nothing that I can write to you cause you don't respect other people's opinion. We can debate and I'll respect your opinion, but you can't do the same and sometime get right down offensive

yeah, sometimes I have fun; but that doesn't make me wrong... just look at the stats in the link of my sig... forget the window dressing... that's just to *** w/ cotto stans (because they try to *** w/ me)... look at the stats!!!!

Completly and totally wrong.
Fights are to be scored on four categories, Ring generalship, Effective Agression, Defense and a focus on clean effective punching.
They are all to be valued almost equally, with effective punching having the ability to determine rounds.
You need to learn how to score fights.

thank you... you just proved my point.

Miguel landed at a higher percentage throughout the fight.

wrong!!!! cotto was more accurate; but mosley landed more power punches... look at the link in the sig!!!

In addition, total punchstats do not tell the whole story. The round by round punchstats are more telling as to who won what round, and even those do not tell the whole story.

the punchstats are objective...

in almost every round mosley landed more power punches than cotto did. based on clean effective punching (which is the focus of good scoring) mosley won more rounds than cotto did.

For example, Mosley could land 30 punches in one round, and then 10 in the next two.
Cotto could land 15 punches per round and still win two of the three rounds, but trail on the punchstats, 50-45.

bwahahahahah!!!! I can tell you don't understand....

I'm not talking about total punch stats! I'm talking about rounds!!!!

mosley won more rounds becuase in most rounds he was landing more power punches than cotto.

using your analogy:

round: 1 2 3
mosley 30 10 10
cotto 15 15 15

according to those stats.... mosley definitely won round 1 but cotto won rounds 2 and 3...

that's what I"m trying to say!!! look at the rounds not the total stats!!!!!

if you look at the stats in my sig and in the link, you will see that mosley took more rounds with his powerpunching.

[adp023]

Floyd will fight another Jr. Welter or Lightweight again!!!

[Iceta]

I believe that Pacquiao will fight Mosley instead. That is why Mayweather is so ****** for turning down Shane. Go to the Philboxing web site, and it will tell you the deal.

[Dave Rado]

the punchstats are objective...

Boxing never has been, and never will be, scored on punch stats. It's scored on:

* Clean Punching
* Effective Aggression
* Ring Generalship
* Defense

Even the part that is given on the basis of clean punching is not scored on punch stats, because punch stats do not measure how clean a punch is, nor how powerful a punch is. In Compubox stats, anything that is not a jab counts as a "power punch", even if the punch carries no more power than a five year old girl patting a dog's head - and even if it does not land cleanly.

Furthermore, the stats are not objective, they are input by some guy pushing a button when he thinks he sees a punch land. If a punch is blocked but that guy thinks it landed, then it appears in the stats. If a punch lands but that guy missed seeing it, then it does not appear in the stats. It is every bit as subjective as the judges scores are.

So either you're being incredibly disingenious or you simply do not understand boxing.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Boxing never has been, and never will be, scored on punch stats. It's scored on:

* Clean Punching (25%)
* Effective Aggression (25%)
* Ring Generalship (25%)
* Defense (25%)

Even the 25% that is given on the basis of clean punching is not scored on punch stats, because punch stats do not measure how clean a punch is, nor how powerful a punch is. In Compubox stats, anything that is not a jab counts as a "power punch", even if the punch carries no more power than a five year old girl patting a dog's head.

Furthermore, the stats are not objective, they are input by some guy pushing a button when he thinks he sees a punch land. If a punch is blocked but that guy thinks it landed, then it appears in the stats. If a punch lands but that guy missed seeing it, then it does not appear in the stats. It is every bit as subjective as the judges scores are.

So either you're being incredibly disingenious or you simply do not understand boxing.

and yet,


the punchstats are one of the first things put up immediately after a fight.


Weird.

[Pullcounter]

I believe that Pacquiao will fight Mosley instead. That is why Mayweather is so ****** for turning down Shane. Go to the Philboxing web site, and it will tell you the deal.

that's the ****ed up part... floyd is counting on it!!!

pac will fight cotto and mosley.... by the time pac get through them (if he even wins both which I doubt) he will have been in way too many wars against big WWs, while floyd is off fighting flyweights.

then floyd will budge on the purse demands and beat up a pac who has gone 2 WW hell twice and claim he's the GOAT.

[Dave Rado]

and yet,


the punchstats are one of the first things put up immediately after a fight.


Weird.

They're interesting. But they do not determine the result of a fight, and they are not objective.

Based on punch stats, Calzaghe beat Hopkins by miles and miles - but most of his shots did not land cleanly, and most of those that did carried very little power. Hence almost everyone agrees that the fight was extremely close, even though Calzaghe landed far more punches than Hopkins did (including landing far more so-called "power punches").

What's more the stats were greatly exaggerated in his favour, because he didn't land nearly as many punches as the stats said he did - a lot of them were blocked. But the guy pressing the button doesn't have the benefit of being able to watch it in slow motion.

[jrosales13]

that's the ****ed up part... floyd is counting on it!!!

pac will fight cotto and mosley.... by the time pac get through them (if he even wins both which I doubt) he will have been in way too many wars against big WWs, while floyd is off fighting flyweights.

then floyd will budge on the purse demands and beat up a pac who has gone 2 WW hell twice and claim he's the GOAT.

I think if that does happen. Pac will retire after the Mosley fight and will never fight Floyd.