Why Are Weight Bullies Not Being Called Out?

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  • Silence
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    #21
    Andrade is really bizarre specimen. He has wide shoulders and is tall. He is big guy anatomically.

    He is natural SMW. Just like Charlos who has similar physique to him.

    If a guy is skinny and tall (like Paul Williams), he can fight in lower weights. But if you're both wide and tall (like Andrade and Charlos), you should kill yourself to make 154 and 160.

    In fact, Andrade is as big as Plant and slightly smaller than Benavidez.

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    Last edited by Silence; 11-25-2023, 04:45 PM.

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    • Haka
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      #22
      Originally posted by Apollo7

      If the rules are the same for both fighters, what's the problem?
      The length of the rehydration period. It should be 4 hours.

      On such a short rehydration period, Benavidez would have been a journeyman boxer with some L's .
      Last edited by Haka; 11-25-2023, 05:15 PM.

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      • buddyr
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        #23
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        With a 36 hour rehydration period. It takes this from being a sport to a charade. It's a joke. Luckily it's resigned to Las Vegas. But this is quintessential weight bullying. I hope Andrade stops Benavidez to send a message to all the other weight bullies.
        I know it's a joke, but it's well within the rules. I would like the sport to go back to same day weigh ins. That will stop a lot of this 20+ lb rehydration, but it's legal and as long as it's legal, fighters will continue to do it. Everyone does it. Some more than others

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        • gauze
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          #24
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy

          I agree 100 percent. It's an absolute joke. Same day weigh ins were an issue because guys were trying to be weight bullies rather than move up a division. They didn't want to lose that advantage, so instead of making an interval weigh in period to make sure the guys are doing it safely, they instead made it so you could have 24 hours. But NOW not even THAT is good enough. NOW they need damn near 48 hours.

          It's a ****ing joke. And then we have these clowns defending it. Crazy.
          i think going back to same day weigh-in and getting rid of the junior/super weight classes would go a long way in negating some of the weight advantages. not to mention that you would have a larger talent pool in each division. a lot of it comes down to the ABC organizations making belts for weight classes that didn't exist. that's too much of a money grab for those organizations to give up

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          • BenjaminLinus
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            #25
            Originally posted by just the facts

            Every fighter you named is African American. Must be a reason for that.
            You're exposing yourself as a racist.

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            • OnePunch
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              #26
              Flip Homansky has no friggin idea how much damage he did to the sport by getting rid of same-day weigh ins. He did it to benefit the guys cutting alot of weight, worrying about THEIR safety, but ignoring the guys who actually fight at a proper weight class, and the risk forced on them by having to fight guys significantly heavier than themselves.

              They should switch back to same day weigh ins, and if someone drains themselves to the point that they get hurt because they didnt have time to put 15 pounds back on, then so be it. That was their choice.

              But it wont happen, because the promoters like having day-before weigh ins. It gives a full day and then some for media reports and extra promotion about the weigh in, and also allows more time to find replacement fighters if someone misses weight or a fight dies at the weigh on over medicals or something else.

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              • Cypocryphy
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                #27
                Originally posted by Silence
                Andrade is really bizarre specimen. He has wide shoulders and is tall. He is big guy anatomically.

                He is natural SMW. Just like Charlos who has similar physique to him.

                If a guy is skinny and tall (like Paul Williams), he can fight in lower weights. But if you're both wide and tall (like Andrade and Charlos), you should kill yourself to make 154 and 160.

                In fact, Andrade is as big as Plant and slightly smaller than Benavidez.

                images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR1DibqrGQ6rsCRJdOPqKf8ARpKuUxiCectFg&usqp=CAU.jpg
                Wow he looks big in that picture. I didn't watch the weigh ins. That's a little shocking. Maybe Andrade actually has a chance here like Jim Lampley stated.

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                • doninlouisiana
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by buddyr
                  there is no such thing as a 'weight bully". If a guy walks around at 350 lbs and he makes lightweight comfortably, it's totally legal
                  Exactly. But a simple end to this conversation would be fight day weigh-ins as in the old days.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    Flip Homansky has no friggin idea how much damage he did to the sport by getting rid of same-day weigh ins. He did it to benefit the guys cutting alot of weight, worrying about THEIR safety, but ignoring the guys who actually fight at a proper weight class, and the risk forced on them by having to fight guys significantly heavier than themselves.

                    They should switch back to same day weigh ins, and if someone drains themselves to the point that they get hurt because they didnt have time to put 15 pounds back on, then so be it. That was their choice.

                    But it wont happen, because the promoters like having day-before weigh ins. It gives a full day and then some for media reports and extra promotion about the weigh in, and also allows more time to find replacement fighters if someone misses weight or a fight dies at the weigh on over medicals or something else.
                    This ^^^

                    That's an excellent comment. Very insightful.

                    Maybe a rehydration cap of 12 pounds. Twelve pounds (approximately) should be the most that a fighter can put on. I'm convinced that these guys are going back to their hotel room and getting on a drip. I've done research on this, and experts have said that it's physically impossible to put on 20 plus pounds within a 24 hour period just by sipping fluids.

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                    • just the facts
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BenjaminLinus

                      You're exposing yourself as a racist.
                      No. I just exposed you as a racist.

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