Andre Ward Proclaims That He's A Racist

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  • Gary Coleman
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    #91
    Originally posted by HeadShots

    Ur making me cry on the inside.
    Fixed it for you.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Gary Coleman

      I suck **** for crack *******


      ok but why?

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        #93
        Originally posted by Bravado
        These conversations require a lot of understanding, grace and nuance which I don’t believe people care to give. Usually when black boxers fight and the match was close or competitive? If the black boxer wins the decision is deemed a robbery.

        Sergey vs Andre.
        Floyd Vs Castillo.
        Floyd vs Oscar.
        Floyd vs Cotto
        Floyd vs Maidana
        Tank vs Cruz
        Devin vs Loma

        Yet when Chavez vs Whitaker is a draw or Joe vs Bernard is a win for Joe? These aren’t seen as robberies. It just is what it is.

        Floyd face Castillo twenty plus years ago. People still bring it up as a way to make it seem as if his career wasn’t special or his record wasn’t legitimate. So it’s the same reoccurring theme people notice and speak up on.

        Remember when Bernard beat Kelly? How much tension was in the air, it was because that dynamic of white vs black. So the gripe will always be, why is there an issue when a black boxer faces someone of another so called race and you aren’t given benefit of the doubt for winning without there needing to be this long winded spiel as to why you cheated or your win isn’t valid?
        This is some terrible race-baiting. This is seen as a far greater robbery than any other fight you've listed, probably recognised as one of the greatest robberies of all time. Not sure you're providing much understanding, grace or nuance here to be quite honest with you, because you can't even provide a particularly good example.

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          #94
          Originally posted by HeadShots



          ok but why?
          Cry all you want. It doesn't change a thing.

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            #95
            After watching the video , it seems to me like people are putting words in Andres mouth that he didn't say.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy

              Unless Ward is an absolute idiot and has no social awareness, then that's not the case. Everyone is going to take it a certain way, and because Ward is NOT an idiot, he definitely didn't mean "fighting styles." Like I said, in the words of Deontay Wilder, "don't have to explain what is understood."

              Just because you take it a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else does or has to agree with you. People tend to see what they want to see in situations like this when words are ambiguous.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                I like ****

                y r u telling me this?

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                • Cypocryphy
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by pnut901


                  Just because you take it a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else does or has to agree with you. People tend to see what they want to see in situations like this when words are ambiguous.
                  Most people took it that way. What other way do you think people should take it?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    Most people took it that way. What other way do you think people should take it?
                    I took it as the type being primarily defensive fighters that a lot of people considered boring based on the guys that he mentioned.Andre doesn't have a history of making racial comments and he strikes me as a guy who is aware of his position and need to measure his words. He's a media guy now.
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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by pnut901

                      I took it as the type being primarily defensive fighters that a lot of people considered boring based on the guys that he mentioned.Andre doesn't have a history of making racial comments and he strikes me as a guy who is aware of his position and need to measure his words. He's a media guy now.
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                      I agree. That's why I was shocked. But in response to what you're saying, why put "type" in quotations. When anyone puts a word in quotations, it means you need to take that word to mean something different than what is typically associated with it. If he wanted to say "defensive fighters, then why not just say defensive fighters will always beat the kind of fighters you like." But he didn't do that, and as Rexy pointed out, in context, it wouldn't make too much sense. Kovalev was a boxer-puncher with good defense, who came up through the amateurs just like Ward.

                      It just seems very strange to me.

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