Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson Captures WBC Title, Decisions Edwin De Los Santos in Slow-Paced Technical Fight

[Robi13]

But fans also booed in the Valdez fight, even after Shakur won the fight - fans continually boo’ed. That reeks of bias..
Clearly a bigger problem at hand for ‘certain’ fans

I had no issues with Shakurs performance vs Valdez, but it’s clear his style is set in stone. He much rather fight like he did tonight and not get hit and not care about it then actually take risks, to entertain. If you like that style more power to you, I like vaqueros style, canelos style, Usyk, bud, shrimp Zepeda… I can go on and on. That was straight trash and if bringing up past fights of his makes you feel like you making some type of weird point, stop it because it’s not working bro. TRASH

[dan-b]

My question is WHY???

I think that's actually a question worth unpacking. I've been observing the online boxing community for over two decades now. Like most online spaces, the people most active on them are not representative of the general population. It takes a certain type of individual to be very outspoken online over long periods and these people tend to be very disgruntled and very likely have mental health problems. Paying too much attention to them can give one a skewed perception of the world (which is one of the reasons I'm not on social media).

As for boxing fans specifically, a sheer lack of perspective seems to be a factor. They think a fighter putting on an unsatisfactory performance is a personal affront and feel justified in hurling abuse, even if they streamed the fight. Does that seem like a rational response?

Lack of maturity (emotionally and in age) is another factor. Let's face it, the online boxing community is overwhelmingly a male space, skewed to the younger end of the spectrum. They've yet to take on real responsibilities such as running their own home, so identifying with particular boxers and fighting against perceived enemies probably seems like a priority.

A lack of constructive hobbies is another factor, and we know this is a particular problem with young men, hence substance abuse problems. If a rational person becomes displeased with boxing - or any other form of entertainment - they'll just do something else. The angry ones seem to be labouring under the illusion that raging on forums is some kind of activist move rather than a sign of impotence.

There's probably more, but the above came to mind after my morning coffee.

[crisantonio917]

Shakur you SUCK! Boring clown, straight TRASH....

[Robi13]

I think that's actually a question worth unpacking. I've been observing the online boxing community for over two decades now. Like most online spaces, the people most active on them are not representative of the general population. It takes a certain type of individual to be very outspoken online over long periods and these people tend to be very disgruntled and very likely have mental health problems. Paying too much attention to them can give one a skewed perception of the world (which is one of the reasons I'm not on social media).

As for boxing fans specifically, a sheer lack of perspective seems to be a factor. They think a fighter putting on an unsatisfactory performance is a personal affront and feel justified in hurling abuse, even if they streamed the fight. Does that seem like a rational response?

Lack of maturity (emotionally and in age) is another factor. Let's face it, the online boxing community is overwhelmingly a male space, skewed to the younger end of the spectrum. They've yet to take on real responsibilities such as running their own home, so identifying with particular boxers and fighting against perceived enemies probably seems like a priority.

A lack of constructive hobbies is another factor, and we know this is a particular problem with young men, hence substance abuse problems. If a rational person becomes displeased with boxing - or any other form of entertainment - they'll just do something else. The angry ones seem to be labouring under the illusion that raging on forums is some kind of activist move rather than a sign of impotence.

There's probably more, but the above came to mind after my morning coffee.

It’s not that deep and or complicated. When a fight is trash that’s all there is to it ITS TRASH! Simple as that

[dan-b]

It’s not that deep and or complicated. When a fight is trash that’s all there is to it ITS TRASH! Simple as that

Okay, you've made that point, repeatedly over several pages. I think we got it. Have a peaceful and constructive day.

[Robi13]

Okay, you've made that point, repeatedly over several pages. I think we got it. Have a peaceful and constructive day.

Well thank you. Likewise. Phuck shakur lol

[messi807]

I had no issues with Shakurs performance vs Valdez, but it’s clear his style is set in stone. He much rather fight like he did tonight and not get hit and not care about it then actually take risks, to entertain. If you like that style more power to you, I like vaqueros style, canelos style, Usyk, bud, shrimp Zepeda… I can go on and on. That was straight trash and if bringing up past fights of his makes you feel like you making some type of weird point, stop it because it’s not working bro. TRASH

You had no issue with it.. but fans still boo’ed. during & after the Valdez fight.

Tonight was a dull fight.. I’m not pretending it wasn’t. The Floyd’s, Sweet Pea’s have had similar fights where they’ve been boo’d and it’s been lacklustre. My point is, I don’t get the dramatics and never will.

his style is set in stone, precisely. so, why expect fireworks then complain about it after because you didn’t get the outcome you wanted. (Not specifically you)

Even Bud who you just mentioned got heavily criticised against Viktor Postol and that was a more entertaining fight than this.

[messi807]

Okay, you've made that point, repeatedly over several pages. I think we got it. Have a peaceful and constructive day.

Some of these dudes act like they just been cheated on ITS ONLY BOXING. Jesus Christ. The amount of grown men on this post crying out for dear heavens lol.

[nghtmr111]

With all due respect to Shakur’s talent and victory….. that was hands down the most boring fight I’ve ever seen in my life. Shakur will never be remembered 10, 20, 30 years from now with performances like this.

I still don’t see anyone beating him whether any of us likes it or not

[messi807]

I think that's actually a question worth unpacking. I've been observing the online boxing community for over two decades now. Like most online spaces, the people most active on them are not representative of the general population. It takes a certain type of individual to be very outspoken online over long periods and these people tend to be very disgruntled and very likely have mental health problems. Paying too much attention to them can give one a skewed perception of the world (which is one of the reasons I'm not on social media).

As for boxing fans specifically, a sheer lack of perspective seems to be a factor. They think a fighter putting on an unsatisfactory performance is a personal affront and feel justified in hurling abuse, even if they streamed the fight. Does that seem like a rational response?

Lack of maturity (emotionally and in age) is another factor. Let's face it, the online boxing community is overwhelmingly a male space, skewed to the younger end of the spectrum. They've yet to take on real responsibilities such as running their own home, so identifying with particular boxers and fighting against perceived enemies probably seems like a priority.

A lack of constructive hobbies is another factor, and we know this is a particular problem with young men, hence substance abuse problems. If a rational person becomes displeased with boxing - or any other form of entertainment - they'll just do something else. The angry ones seem to be labouring under the illusion that raging on forums is some kind of activist move rather than a sign of impotence.

There's probably more, but the above came to mind after my morning coffee.

This makes a-lot of sense, I figured it had to do with anger or something along those lines. I don’t think you’ll find angrier sports fans than the ones in the U.S.. be it boxing, hockey or football. heck, even some college sports fans are lunatics. It’s like writing and spreading as much negativity over a forum about a fighter gives them a sense of joy that they may not be able to find in *real life*.
Most the time I just laugh at personal insults on here.