Comments Thread For: Holyfield Giving Oleksandr Usyk a Strong Shot To Shock Tyson Fury

[Boxviewer]

It depends on what Tyson Fury shows up.

Is it the guy prepared to do war like he did against Wilder or is it the unfocused mental case that we saw against Wallin & Ngannou.

Greedy Belly looked great against an utterly limited boxer Wilder who can't fight on the back foot and lacks strength and defence. He was tailor made for him. Francis Ngannou exposed him, he couldn't impose his weight on him, a novice with basic boxing skills but physically very strong. These two fights, the Wilder and Ngannou fights, showed that the famed Greedy Belly's skills are greatly based on his ability to bully smaller and weaker guys. If Wallin was as strong as Ngannou he could have beaten Greedy Belly convincingly IMO.

Usyk isn't physically as strong as Ngannou but he's stronger legs and cardio than Wilder and a far better boxer and fighter than him. On top of that he's faster and quicker than Greedy Belly and he can take a punch. So, I can see him beating Greedy Belly easily.

[dan-b]

If the fight actually happens, that is.

[hennanra1000]

I think it's impossible to gauge how Fury performs against Usyk for multiple reasons:
- Ngannou was impossible to prepare for as he never had any prior boxing matches.
- Fury deep down would have struggled to motivate himself for Ngannou who had no boxing credentials and started even MMA late.
- Ngannou being a switch-hitter was a really insane surprise (but Martial artists generally encompass wider array of stances and movements so should have been anticipated).
- Ngannou negated the no.1 tactic Fury uses of putting his body weight + height pressure down on his smaller or lighter opponent. In fact he reversed it and made Fury tired in the clinches.

I think the last point is the main factor - how does Usyk handle being tied up and the toll of all that weight on him constantly (Chisora even gave him problems using weight bullying tactics). Along with of course the motivation factor - Fury normally performs best when he is counted out / the underdog with 'world is against Gypsy me'.

I just see it as 50/50.

I agree though Fury is a disgrace to the sport with how he lives out of camp. One fight can't negate his talent though - he just will never be an ATG because of his choices in not taking the game seriously. I almost want him to lose for this reason alone - he let the adulation from Wilder wins get to his head.

[thack]

Holyfields view should be respected to the highest degree as he did exactly what Usyk must try to achieve against bigger talented fighters like Bowe, he knows how it works. Usyk has a real chance . I would put my money on a peak Holyfield to beat Usyk and given Usyk took such a long time to recover from a blow to the belt line leaves a few question marks .Fury didn't look great against Ngannou but it's obvious it won't be that Fury in the ring against Usyk BUT the doubt here for me is has Fury reached the end , it happens .If any boxer is going to find out it's going to be someone with a skilled high work rate like Usyk .This really is now there for the taking for either of the two top heavyweights in the world today .The rest should just watch and learn.This fight now is more intriqing than ever before.

[Knuckle sandwich]

I'd expect the fight to happen in may, with fury getting himself in good shape ( for a change), Fury will target the body of usyk, he will lean all over him, maybe gets the stoppage, there will also be a rematch clause, I expect this fight to be boring, Fury will retire.

[Hooded Terror]

I have really changed my mind on this match. I believe Fury has crossed over and that his legs are gone. I think a precise sharp puncher can floor him, especially from an astute technician that can occupy and turn him in close quarters. I expect Usyk to muddle Fury up over the first half of the contest, dropping him briefly along the way. Over the second half it comes down to how much of a conditioned fighting man Fury is as I see him being floored very late a second time and out-fought. I think the layers peel off on Fury IF he steps in with Usyk in the next six months. That's IF they fight.

My REAL forecast?

Fury finds a way to back out of the match.

[Liondw]

He does have some chance, although Fury would look sharper Han against Ngannou, probably.

As Evander said, it's a very difficult sport. As Teddy Atlas said, after a fight, especially after a hard fight, you leave a piece of yourself in the ring.

[Ropeydope]

Fury has done well bullying smaller fighters in the past, but the speed and agility will be miles apart with Usyk. I don’t think he will be there to be leaned on like Wilder and others. Fury’s kos come late when his opponent (and usually he himself) are dog tired. Usyk will be in top shape and cut him up like a buzz saw.

[hugh grant]

Usyk favourite so how is it a shock?

[Boxing Scene]

Yeah but Holyfield was a confirmed cheater like Canelo Alvarez. Nelo Rez took some advice from Evan Fields. Both confirmed convicted well known drug cheats.