Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Stripped Of IBF Belt; Jaron Ennis Elevated To Full Titlist

[Doubledagger]

It would have been better if the IBF had put the nearest contender up against Boots for the championship instead of just e-mailing the paper title to him.

They already did that goofy, hence the interim title

[Daznsucks]

This pleases me. Every time they would ask Terrence Crawford about the boots fights he would change the conversation and say he’s not interested in it and was only interested in money fights. Terrence, you’re not bigger than an organization, specially looking at your resume, the only elite prime opponent you beat was Errol Spence. Next up I hope the strip Devin Haney of the 135 belts

here we go with resume bs again. Just about every boxer and expert thinks he’s number one P2P, including Shakur who is a very discerning boxer that studies the game and works out with him. I trust them more than you. You are still sore about Spence losing.

[Doubledagger]

The ABC bodies can be very inconsistent with enforcing their own rules. What's the point of having pages of rules/regulations if you refuse to apply them? WBC lets Jermall go on a two year hiatus when he could've been made 'champion in recess'. Cordina was stripped after the Ogawa fight due to injury, but Spence was allowed to keep his title even after the car accident. Many new titlists are forced to fight mandatories because the previous champion barely fought any mandatories. Sanctioning bodies are cherry-pickers too, and it's one of the more frustrating realities of following the sport.

Spence's accident coincided with covid lockdown and shut down of all sporting activities.

I swear yawl just spew anything and ignore the actual context of what happened.

[Daznsucks]

The IBF is right here. Just like the WBO was right to strip Jermell and instate Tszyu as champ.

I don’t agree. WBO should have stripped him. IBF should have stripped Spence. Crawford barely got the belt. See the politics? They gave Spence a pass but went right after Crawford.

I do like when sanctioning bodies take action and force fights. WBO and IBF are the only ones that seem to do it. WBC should have stripped Canelo and Charlo long ago, but they want the big stars and sanctioning fees. IBF stripped Canelo too at middleweight.

[Curtis2]

Let this sink in- Boots previous 15 fights are with opponents equaling 63 losses…. Just to clarify… that’s 15 fighters = 63 losses total amongst those 15 fighters- does that quality of competition sink in yet??

[kiaba360]

Boots wasn't mandatory before Spence fought Porter. Spence beat Porter for WBC, Boots became the mandatory for IBF. Ugas got elevated because Manny screwed the pooch with Cryan Garcia - Spence was about to fight Manny before that. Spence beat Ugas for WBA.

Spence tried to book with Crawford, Crawford walked away from negotiations to rob BLK Prime and fight a mandatory.

The letter orgs mostly leave you alone as long as you

- are unifying belts
- are fighting mandatories


Spence was busy unifying titles, bro. Unifications trump mandatories.

Crawford couldn't unify any further, he HAD to fight a mandatory, regardless of the Spence rematch. The same thing happened with Floyd, they started threatening him after he beat Manny, so he stopped paying the bill and got stripped.

There was a window of time where Spence could've arguably gotten stripped by the IBF: 14 months between Porter and Danny, and 16 months between Danny and Ugas. They allowed him to defend against Mikey and Danny, but were they both IBF ranked? I know Mikey was the IBF champ at the lower weights, but he hadn't done anything yet at 147.

ABC bodies are inconsistent in how they regulate, every decision or rule change is left to their discretion. There's a reason why fans start to create cynical acronyms (i.e. What Bob Orders, We Back Canelo) because we start to notice patterns of behavior that imply favoritism/corruption. It isn't about Spence in particular, because there are an endless amount of examples. They shouldn't "mostly leave" fighters alone, the rules should be strictly enforced on everyone, or they should be lax for everyone. The ABC bodies are supposed to preserve the integrity of Boxing as a sport, while the promoters/managers try to expand the Business by any means necessary. Sometimes, it feels like the ABC bodies forget their role. WBC is actively obstructing Undisputed between Beterbiev/Bivol over sociopolitical reasons, but they give Fury "special permission" to face Ngannou in Saudi Arabia and they create a trophy title for it. Meanwhile, O'Shaquie Foster was defending his legitimate WBC title in Mexico. WBC has allowed Jermall to hold his title for 2 years without a defense, meanwhile Carlos Adames has actively petitioned for a title shot and was denied. I'm sure NSB could create a laundry list of examples where sanctioning bodies have acted questionably. I'm surprised we don't have a pinned thread to track all of the behavior.

[Robi13]

This is the right move and good for boxing for many reasons. 1. Boots is now champion and can’t use the excuse that fighters are ducking him for being high risk low reward, as champion he has a high reward now, and the high risk low reward is also a non excuse for the Crawford and Spence’s of the division so they can’t use that excuse either. 2. Boots don’t have to wait around and see what happens with Spence and bud because as champion he can defend vs anyone wanting a title shot and that’s everyone basically, so he can get fights with the other top dogs not named Spence and bud while they handle their biz. 3. Once Spence and bud handle what they gotta handle, assuming boots is still champ by Then, he can challenge the winner/loser and they have no excuse to avoid him at that point either. With all that being said, nothing will happen until the benavidez vs boo boo fight is over because only until that is over will team canelo decide what they will do, based on that, it’ll be a dominoe effect. Right now, bud wants that canelo money, winner of benavidez vs boo boo is going to want that canelo money. So everything and everyone will wait to see who gets the call then make their moves after. I said it before and I’m saying it again, canelo hold all the cards in the game so much so that it effects the entire sport and boxers in and around his weight and weight class. I don’t know this to be facts, just seems what’s most logical at this point.

[Combat Talk Radio]

There was a window of time where Spence could've arguably gotten stripped by the IBF: 14 months between Porter and Danny, and 16 months between Danny and Ugas. They allowed him to defend against Mikey and Danny, but were they both IBF ranked? I know Mikey was the IBF champ at the lower weights, but he hadn't done anything yet at 147.

ABC bodies are inconsistent in how they regulate, every decision or rule change is left to their discretion. There's a reason why fans start to create cynical acronyms (i.e. What Bob Orders, We Back Canelo) because we start to notice patterns of behavior that imply favoritism/corruption. It isn't about Spence in particular, because there are an endless amount of examples. They shouldn't "mostly leave" fighters alone, the rules should be strictly enforced on everyone, or they should be lax for everyone. The ABC bodies are supposed to preserve the integrity of Boxing as a sport, while the promoters/managers try to expand the Business by any means necessary. Sometimes, it feels like the ABC bodies forget their role. WBC is actively obstructing Undisputed between Beterbiev/Bivol over sociopolitical reasons, but they give Fury "special permission" to face Ngannou in Saudi Arabia and they create a trophy title for it. Meanwhile, O'Shaquie Foster was defending his legitimate WBC title in Mexico. WBC has allowed Jermall to hold his title for 2 years without a defense, meanwhile Carlos Adames has actively petitioned for a title shot and was denied. I'm sure NSB could create a laundry list of examples where sanctioning bodies have acted questionably. I'm surprised we don't have a pinned thread to track all of the behavior.

Spence was injured after Porter. He fought Danny fresh off the first wreck.

Ocampo was IBF mandatory before the Mikey fight.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Never forget.

If u get handed a world title because someone blatantly avoided u, u deserve it, because even though u didn't fight for it, u kicked the champs ass mentally

[kiaba360]

Spence was injured after Porter. He fought Danny fresh off the first wreck.

Ocampo was IBF mandatory before the Mikey fight.

Ennis could've potentially gotten a vacant IBF title shot at some point during Spence's 30 total months of inactivity, and Spence could've gotten first crack at the winner. That's what occurred with Cordina: got stripped due to injury after beating Ogawa, IBF made Barrett/Rakhimov, and Cordina fought the winner. When a titlist is going to be inactive for an undisclosed amount of time, I think the titlist should be stripped or made "champion in recess" so other contenders can get their shot. However, this would require the ABC bodies to force contenders to fight each other to build legit #1 contenders. The pandemic is partly to blame, but we're still seeing chronic inactivity.