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  • #41
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    I think Zhang gives Fury all problems he can handle and that he makes Joshua quit.
    It's not so long ago that people were saying exactly the same about Joyce.

    We don't know until they fight at that kind of level. Joyce was visibly slow and easy to hit. And no-one knows Hrgovic's level. Tough to judge either of them too much but they've certainly earned big fights.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

      It's not so long ago that people were saying exactly the same about Joyce.

      We don't know until they fight at that kind of level. Joyce was visibly slow and easy to hit. And no-one knows Hrgovic's level. Tough to judge either of them too much but they've certainly earned big fights.
      Yes people talk the same about Joyce.

      And I think Joyce is much dangerous fighter than Franklin, Helenius, Chisora and Ngannou.

      Zhang stopped top 10 guy twice, not so long ago. It is really hard to say how good are Joshua and Fury now, they both are fighting on a fringe level.

      What if Joshua is totally shot, because Usyk fights took a lot from him?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

        Yes people talk the same about Joyce.

        And I think Joyce is much dangerous fighter than Franklin, Helenius, Chisora and Ngannou.

        Zhang stopped top 10 guy twice, not so long ago. It is really hard to say how good are Joshua and Fury now, they both are fighting on a fringe level.

        What if Joshua is totally shot, because Usyk fights took a lot from him?
        Possible (re Joshua).

        It was also a pretty good performance (Usyk 2) from Joshua. He just lost to the better boxer. Usyk was never a good fit for Joshua.

        The question marks around him are all mental. There's no doubt he took those losses hard. But physically, I've never doubted Joshua's preparation. He's a machine.

        Once you're physically shot, you're physically shot. But can he find the right mindset to compete? Hard to completely rule that out.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Toffee View Post

          It's not so long ago that people were saying exactly the same about Joyce.

          We don't know until they fight at that kind of level. Joyce was visibly slow and easy to hit. And no-one knows Hrgovic's level. Tough to judge either of them too much but they've certainly earned big fights.



          honestly Joyce could very much beat both.


          Fury just got his head beat in by an MMA fighter making a debut. his size bullying and gas tank won't work against Joe.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

            Yes people talk the same about Joyce.

            And I think Joyce is much dangerous fighter than Franklin, Helenius, Chisora and Ngannou.

            Zhang stopped top 10 guy twice, not so long ago. It is really hard to say how good are Joshua and Fury now, they both are fighting on a fringe level.

            What if Joshua is totally shot, because Usyk fights took a lot from him?
            Out of the top 4 Heavyweights, Joshua & Uysk are potentially highly likely to be the least physically burnt out.

            They have both the best work ethic in the entire Heavyweight division 'Anthony Joshua has a near psychopathic work ethic, his traits of being over analytical and obsessive lead him to approach the sport in this way'.

            So although neither Joshua or Usyk are maybe not at their peak, work ethic combined with their in ring experiences 'They have just taken less damage then both Fury and Wilder'.

            Tyson Fury has taken heavy damage inside the boxing ring continually and outside the ring 'Fury even though he is not fighting at a high level, is still getting ****** about'.

            I have described the competition between Fury, Uysk, Joshua and Wilder as a battle and competition to see 'Who will be the last man standing'.

            This is all about the long game mate, who are people really backing under those circumstances? Tyson Fury made this into a long game, by not already fighting Uysk & Joshua.

            Who are people endorsing in this sort of competition? What is Tyson Fury doing now? Does anyone here thing he has treated himself to a few pies since he was given a win over Ngannou? Try as he might, much as a big time performer Fury is? The man's does not in my opinion innately behave in a way which promotes his long game.

            If people want to back Fury, go for it 'I have always stated the longer Fury takes to fight, his nearest competition the more the fight moves towards them'.

            Note: I don't think Wilder has bad work ethic, but even before the Tyson Fury fights 'Wilder struggled to win rounds at top level, and was continually being ****** about a bit before he was eventually knock-out his opponents.

            Fury's current form I think out of the top-4, is the most suspect 'Fury's actual level and form' etc.




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            • #46
              Originally posted by Toffee View Post

              Possible (re Joshua).

              It was also a pretty good performance (Usyk 2) from Joshua. He just lost to the better boxer. Usyk was never a good fit for Joshua.

              The question marks around him are all mental. There's no doubt he took those losses hard. But physically, I've never doubted Joshua's preparation. He's a machine.

              Once you're physically shot, you're physically shot. But can he find the right mindset to compete? Hard to completely rule that out.
              Yes, Joshua`s problem is mental. I can see him being scared and going into panic mode as soon as somebody like Zhang starts landing.

              I just want Fury and Joshua to fight top contenders like Sanchez, Zhang, Hrgovic,..to see how good they really are. That is all.

              If Joshua fights and beats kabayel, well, that would be another nice fringe level win, but kabayel is not even top 15.

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              • #47
                Zhang needs to put together a huge money fight in China in order to lure the top dogs into the ring. He's a lot of danger and not enough reward at this point. Joshua and his promoter do not have the confidence in his chin or himself to take this fight.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by HeadShots View Post


                  you didn't graduate high school. be honest. you are one ****** idiot.


                  only 2 tournaments matter in the amateurs.

                  world championship
                  olympics



                  Ortiz got washed in both tournaments year after year. didn't medal once. TFOH




                  pros, ORTIZ got KTFO twice by wilder.

                  Zhang KTFO Joyce twice.


                  LMFAO


                  size Luis Ortiz is 6'4 236 lbs. Zhang is 6'7 281 lbs.



                  how low iq is this moron?

                  Judging by this post , you're the low IQ moron. What's wrong with you ,that can't talk boxing without being rude and disrespectful ? That kind of attitude is not going to get you anywhere in life. You're either a kid , a dummy, or a punk who talks like that online because they get pushed around in real life.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                    Why should Zhang who already beat top 10 guy twice, beat Makhmudov or Dubois to prove something, I don`t understand.

                    Zhang is WBO mandatory, he must just take some smart stay busy fight while waiting on his shot.
                    In a perfect world, I would agree with you as Zhang would get a title shot in the next year. But Usyk-Fury likely will not happen until early 2024, and there is a contractual rematch after that between the two. Figure that will be late in 2024. Considering the purse numbers those fights will earn, the WBO will happily sanction both. Then, Flip (who beat Zhang) is next in the rotation. That puts Zhang realistically into mid or late 2025 before he is even in the conversation for the title shot he earned.

                    He needs fights NOW to cash in on his Joyce wins, and he needs the biggest names to get interest and eyeballs to get paid what he is worth. Stay busy fights will pay the bills, but will do little to get a larger payday. It is not about proving a thing. It is about maximizing his earning potential before he ages out, which will happen soon. He cannot afford to waste this.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by pnut901 View Post


                      Judging by this post , you're the low IQ moron. What's wrong with you ,that can't talk boxing without being rude and disrespectful ? That kind of attitude is not going to get you anywhere in life. You're either a kid , a dummy, or a punk who talks like that online because they get pushed around in real life.

                      lol
                      another butthurt high school drop out with a swing and a miss


                      try harder.

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