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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by dan-b

    Why was it never gonna be likely when that was the date most involved, including Fury himself, were talking about?

    I don't share your confidence that Fury will show up, but if he does I too think he will probably win on points.
    Preparation and promotion essentially. Dec 23rd always felt very rushed.

    Fury won’t walk away from this kind of payday. He won’t want to fall out of favour with the Saudi’s either. It feels like nearly every sports personality in the world is bending over backwards for them.

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      #12
      Originally posted by dan-b

      Irrelevant waffle again. I'll try once more and then I'll let you have the last word you're obviously determined to have. Given Fury's history and relationship with the truth, I do not believe moving the date is a mere technicality. I think there is a high possibility he will not end up fighting at all.

      Floor's yours, I won't be responding to you again.
      Money is irrelevant???? Some of y'all got dropped on your heads as babies.

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        #13
        Stop making excuses for the steroid cheating dosser

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          #14
          Originally posted by Apollo7
          If he ducks this he's gonna look like a p*ssy.
          *****? Its beyond that. He (or Usyk) would be r3tarded if either guy turns down near 9 digits to fight. You know being that their whole lives have been about fighting. And from accounts I've heard Fury is gonna make around $200M for these two fights with Usyk.

          This is a silly topic to me. They will fight in the first quarter of next year before the end of Riyadh Season. Too much money in play. They'll probably rematch at the Oct 2024 Riyadh Season start although I'd bet whoever wins the first fight will get stripped of a belt or two in the meantime. I mean outside of one of them dying they will be fighting twice anyway.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas

            *****? Its beyond that. He (or Usyk) would be r3tarded if either guy turns down near 9 digits to fight. You know being that their whole lives have been about fighting. And from accounts I've heard Fury is gonna make around $200M for these two fights with Usyk.

            This is a silly topic to me. They will fight in the first quarter of next year before the end of Riyadh Season. Too much money in play. They'll probably rematch at the Oct 2024 Riyadh Season start although I'd bet whoever wins the first fight will get stripped of a belt or two in the meantime. I mean outside of one of them dying they will be fighting twice anyway.
            It's up to the Saudis then. They're the ones paying so they decide when the fight will happen.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mooshashi

              Fury is on record ( I've seen the video but can't find it right now) saying "we have a contract; Usyk has to fight me 23 December". Of course, that was before Fury was humiliated by a novice boxer and received a life altering black eye LOL). Helenius fought within 10 days of another fight, Kovalov within 9 weeks of a very tough fight. But "the greatest HW in history" can't fight within 8 weeks ON A CONTRACT HE WILLFULLY SIGNED.

              This is just another chapter in the sad history of an overhyped, undisciplined mug with a very poor resume. Again attempting to hijack his one belt and keep it in his closet. Again his fan boys enabling him and chugging down every excuse and lie that he spews.

              I'm on record as stating the fight should be delayed until the end of the 1st quarter 2024 HOWEVER if i was advising Usyk I'd tell him to keep Fury's fat feet to the fire and bring a lawsuit against him with the hope of extracting more money or some concessions.
              Fury was being silly with the Dec 23 or lawsuit thing. Usyk is being silly right back at him over it now. Point for Usyk in the public battle of words/oneupsmanship. Y'all fans taking this thing far too seriously tho lol. I mean ffs why are we acting like dates don't get pushed back all the time for all kinds of reasons far more basic & petty than having a rough night 8wks before a date?

              I get it to some extent. A lot of ppl dislike Fury. So ppl are happy to dunk on Fury here. Personally idgaf about dunking on anyone over a fight date happening or not happening when logic suggests its better to push it back. The fight will happen when both are more prepared for the fight than either guy would have been on Dec 23. Fury had a rough night. And Usyk is on record saying he prefers a longer camp than he was gonna get. Its win win for both.

              And idk why the fook Usyk would legit sue. Its a waste of money cuz the money guys are Saudi ppl not Fury/Bob/Frankie. He should sue Saudi ppl if they date gets flipped ig, but again I don't see the point. He's gonna make generational wealth if the fight happens Dec 2023, Feb/Mar 2024, as I think it will, or if either guy gets hurt in camp & the first fight don't happen for some wild ass reason til Feb/Mar 2025.

              Helenius & Kovalev were B sides running towards money. Fury is the A side here. In boxing, like it or not, the A side makes most of the rules & even when they don't the power brokers throwing both sides the money side with the A side guy.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Apollo7

                It's up to the Saudis then. They're the ones paying so they decide when the fight will happen.
                I'm sure they already have decided. Thats why we aren't seeing a crazy Fury vs Usyk promo like we saw for Fury vs Ngannou already.

                To me this is basic sh^t. After that 3rd round, Prince Turki, Fury, Usyk, Bob, Frank, Alex & anyone & everyone potentially involved in the fight knew Dec 23, a date 8wks away was a no go, I guarantee you that.

                Even Usyk & Alex who are pushing something in public now with Dec 23 knew it then & knows it now, but its smart of them to get some one upmanship on Fury by going with the Dec 23 narrative & sh^t talking with it. It helps hype the fight & get ppl feeling some kind of way like I see ppl in this thread & elsewhere doing.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas

                  I'm sure they already have decided. Thats why we aren't seeing a crazy Fury vs Usyk promo like we saw for Fury vs Ngannou already.

                  To me this is basic sh^t. After that 3rd round, Prince Turki, Fury, Usyk, Bob, Frank, Alex & anyone & everyone potentially involved in the fight knew Dec 23, a date 8wks away was a no go, I guarantee you that.

                  Even Usyk & Alex who are pushing something in public now with Dec 23 knew it then & knows it now, but its smart of them to get some one upmanship on Fury by going with the Dec 23 narrative & sh^t talking with it. It helps hype the fight & get ppl feeling some kind of way like I see ppl in this thread & elsewhere doing.
                  Maybe but for arguments sake, why can't they fight on Dec 23rd? How long does it take to recover from a flash KD?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Apollo7

                    Maybe but for arguments sake, why can't they fight on Dec 23rd? How long does it take to recover from a flash KD?
                    You are unlikely to get a clear and concise answer to that question from the person you are asking.

                    "Y'all don't know the business. Muh A side, muh split y'all. Even though that was the date everyone was talking about I knew better y'all. Because I'm a mind reader and have telepathic powers y'all. Y'all failed school, I'm a genius y'all. Fury y'all, is the best y'all. He got y'all hectic y'all. Usyk playing along too y'all. That answers your question y'all. Y'all now see why I'm the Ignore List Champion y'all."

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Apollo7

                      Maybe but for arguments sake, why can't they fight on Dec 23rd? How long does it take to recover from a flash KD?
                      Show me a guy going into the biggest fight of their life who looked like this 8 wks before that fight & was just in their toughest fight. Maybe in the 1940's or decades ago there were guys who you could name, but nowadays guys don't go beat up into their biggest fights. I mean is this THAT crazy a thing?!?!?

                      And why would the Saudi's, who are paying insane $$$ to both guys, even want one of the boxers looking like this a mere 8wks before a huge fight they are making. You'd want both guys as close to their best as possible as the person throwing bags at these two guys. I don't get the controversy or confusion here at all.

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