Usyk vs Dubious shouldn't be a controversy

[The Big Dunn]

In real time I felt the ref made an error that cost DuBois a title. Not a robbery or a payoff, just a mistake.

I have not utilized photo evidence because the timing and angles are often not accurate. Besides, the call is made in real time.

I would like to see boxing adopt something like the NFL. Play through then check replay.

That shot was close enough that imo, had they done a replay like I suggest, possibly DuBois is given a KO win. Possibly its ruled low.

Yes DuBois quit. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have been given a KO win if he deserved it.

[4truth]

Just like I wouldn't mind seeing the rematch here, i'd like to see a Fury Ngannou rematch. Not because I think the result would be any different quite the contrary. I'd just like to put the controversy to rest.

I think Dubois quits again and I think Fury wins it easy this time. I thought Ngannou beat a pitifully prepared Fury the first time.

[4truth]

In real time I felt the ref made an error that cost DuBois a title. Not a robbery or a payoff, just a mistake.

I have not utilized photo evidence because the timing and angles are often not accurate. Besides, the call is made in real time.

I would like to see boxing adopt something like the NFL. Play through then check replay.

That shot was close enough that imo, had they done a replay like I suggest, possibly DuBois is given a KO win. Possibly its ruled low.

Yes DuBois quit. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have been given a KO win if he deserved it.

A KO win would not be possible without an actual count. Personally I think Usyk played it up quite a lot and would have beaten the count had there been one. We'll never know.

[The Big Dunn]

A KO win would not be possible without an actual count. Personally I think Usyk played it up quite a lot and would have beaten the count had there been one. We'll never know.

That is what I am suggesting.

Ref count. Then before victory announcement, check video. Probably need to iron out some wrinkles here.

Yeah its not smooth, but at least it forces the guy to try and get up.

[dannnnn]

It isn't a controversy. It's Fury fan(boy)s clutching at straws.

Even if you genuinely want to have an honest debate over whether or not the punch was low, what isn't up for debate is that it was ruled low by the referee and therefore Usyk was allowed up to five minutes to recover and acted accordingly. Any talk of a KO win for Dubois is laughable nonsense.

[MikeyMike100]

It isn't a controversy. It's Fury fan(boy)s clutching at straws.

Even if you genuinely want to have an honest debate over whether or not the punch was low, what isn't up for debate is that it was ruled low by the referee and therefore Usyk was allowed up to five minutes to recover and acted accordingly. Any talk of a KO win for Dubois is laughable nonsense.

Totally agree. Usyk did what he was supposed to do in that situation when a low blow is called.

[crimsonfalcon07]

In real time I felt the ref made an error that cost DuBois a title. Not a robbery or a payoff, just a mistake.

I have not utilized photo evidence because the timing and angles are often not accurate. Besides, the call is made in real time.

I would like to see boxing adopt something like the NFL. Play through then check replay.

That shot was close enough that imo, had they done a replay like I suggest, possibly DuBois is given a KO win. Possibly its ruled low.

Yes DuBois quit. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have been given a KO win if he deserved it.

Check the ref position for the call. He was in direct view watching it. Had the best possible angle to make the call. What's more likely, that he made the correct call and all the people nitpicking from bad angles are wrong, or that people who saw it live from a bad angle got it right and the guy who was right there looking directly at it and heard the glove impact the groin protector got it wrong?

I do think boxing needs access to immediate replays and to have clear protocols for reversals of bad calls.

[dan-b]

Who's calling it a "controversy" on here beside the usual edgelords?

[The Big Dunn]

Check the ref position for the call. He was in direct view watching it. Had the best possible angle to make the call. What's more likely, that he made the correct call and all the people nitpicking from bad angles are wrong, or that people who saw it live from a bad angle got it right and the guy who was right there looking directly at it and heard the glove impact the groin protector got it wrong?

I do think boxing needs access to immediate replays and to have clear protocols for reversals of bad calls.

Understand your point.

I have to look again but in real time I wasn’t sure he saw it clean. In the rbr thread, I noted that ref has a history of being really solid ref.

I don’t know he heard anything and I haven’t read or seen him say he did. If you have, please share it.

I think it is needed just in case a ref does make a
mistake.

Yeah.

[_Rexy_]

That is what I am suggesting.

Ref count. Then before victory announcement, check video. Probably need to iron out some wrinkles here.

Yeah its not smooth, but at least it forces the guy to try and get up.

It doesn't help that the most recent/known example of replay in boxing involved Robert Byrd's old ass starting at a monitor for 40 minutes before saying "yeah, maybe a thumb?"