Comments Thread For: Robbery, Schmobbery: Competitive Fight Doesn't Mean Tyson Fury Lost

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  • Phatfarm1980
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    #11
    This article does nothing to change what everybody saw with their own eyes. Usually, bad performances in boxing are forgotten about but I feel this one will stick to Fury due to the nature of the bout. It's tarnished his reputation and legacy.

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    • hugh grant
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      #12
      Francis lost but he's a winner. Fury embarrassed boxing, and Francis elevated mma fighters

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      • Unorthodox Fox
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        #13
        Hmmm…yeah about Compubox…

        I know what Compubox said about the fight statistics, and so I really tried to keep my eye out for the 39 clean jabs to the head that Fury apparently landed. I tried really hard, but I just honestly couldn’t see them. Really? 39 clean jabs to the head?
        I want to believe the narrative that Fury simply outlanded Ngannou with solid clean shots (even if they didn’t do damage), because it makes it much easier to sleep at night, but I just can’t even see that. It seemed like the vast majority of clean, solid, and damaging punches were landed by Ngannou on Fury. So I’m really not sure how much stock people should put on who Compubox said statistically won the fight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Phatfarm1980
          This article does nothing to change what everybody saw with their own eyes. Usually, bad performances in boxing are forgotten about but I feel this one will stick to Fury due to the nature of the bout. It's tarnished his reputation and legacy.
          Doubt that tbh, If Fury beats Usyk next, all will be forgotten.

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            #15
            Originally posted by gooderz84
            Although I love your articles I have to disagree this time Lyle. With no belt on the line and no actual champion status for either man in terms of the contest on the night there was no ripping away of any titles to be done. Usually when there's a close fight like this and it goes one way and it's a bit of a screamer - people can say "well you've got to really rip the belt away from the champ to get the W".

            There was no champ. No ripping required. Everyone saw the same thing. One guy in control and one guy bricking it for 7 and a half rounds.
            The lineal title was on the line.

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              #16
              Originally posted by denium

              The lineal title was on the line.
              ah! fair shout!!!

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              • Unorthodox Fox
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                #17
                Hmm I feel I have to correct my earlier comment.
                I still stand by Compubox not being something you should trust in deciding who won a boxing match. However, after watching the fight back very very carefully (rounds 1-8. Not able to see last 2 rounds) I feel Fury did in fact land more clean punches in the majority of rounds (instead of Ngannou, like I said earlier). I feel like Fury landed more clean punches, and therefore had to win rounds 1,2,4,5,6. Ngannou clearly took the 3rd (by 2 points) and 8th. Round 7 was extremely hard to score, and I had it a draw. Therefore I had Fury up 2 rounds going into the final 2 rounds, making it impossible (on my card) for Ngannou to have won. It looks like Fury most likely deserved to win on points.
                Ngannou did extremely well to knock Fury down, take a few rounds, and make a few very competitive, but in the end he certainly wasn’t robbed. His “reactiveness” to Fury’s punches impressed me most of all. If that isn’t a blueprint for Joshua I don’t know what is.

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                • max baer
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                  #18
                  i think fury was maybe up to too many things in his life and if he wants to fight again it is a sacrifice to commit to you gotta sacrifice things to focus at the elite level. i have noticed when he thinks fight is easy like wallin and this fight he is taken by suprise yet when he goes at it with total focus like wilder 2 and 3 he wins.
                  it is an enormous challenge to be the best boxer in the world and even the best cannot take it as a given.

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                  • TheOneAboveAll
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by denium

                    Doubt that tbh, If Fury beats Usyk next, all will be forgotten.
                    He'll be partially redeemed with a convincing win over Usyk, but he will still have unfinished business with Ngannou. Fury, as absurd as it is, was being pronounced by some fans as the HW GOAT. The HW GOAT cannot retire with an unresolved controversial win over a rank amateur. In all likelihood Fury will completely avoid the Usyk fight next. His panic attacks about losing even more status in the sport will be too much for him. He will retire 'undefeated' for 3 more years then return triumphantly to TKO Derek Chisora for a 4th time and his adoring fans will declare him the greatest again.

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                    • chicken-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Nightfall
                      When its a close fight and a knock down is involved that normally makes the difference. Oops it depends on the fighter. Translation- the money talks boxing politics and racism
                      Or maybe Fury just won more rounds. I know, it's hard to consider such reasonable explanations.

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