Fury only has himself to blame

[BattlingNelson]

Fury is just a side note in HW. A win over a way past it Wlad and a failure to honor the return clause, and competitive fights against Wilder who himself never beat a man who beat a top 20 fighter.

[kafkod]

Yeah, I was watching of some his pre-Wlad IFL videos with Kugan and he's changed so much for the worse.

I've been a Fury fan since the very beginning and I don't even recognise the man anymore.

Same here mate, but as you know, I've been disillusioned with Tyson for a while now. His dad played the biggest role in destroying the great fighter that Tyson used to be and could have become again, imo. He came between Tyson and Uncle Pete,, which was a fantastic partnership. Then he did the same thing with Ben Davison, who was trying to rebuild the old Tyson Fury from the wreckage of his 2 year booze and coke binge, and probably would have succeeded if he hadn't been undermined by John and his ... " My son doesn't need to worry about being in shape and fancy boxing" bullshit.

And John calling Sugarhill a traitor for telling the truth about Tyson's bogus April training camp and publicly calling for Tyson to sack him, then hanging around camp like a bad smell while Sugar was trying to get Tyson ready for Ngannou wasn't exactly conducive to getting Tyson into the right mental state to perform well against anybody.

[kafkod]

3,4,5,8,9, 10 plus knockdown...

You must have pulled those numbers out of your arse. Ngannou boxed out of his skin, for a guy having his first ever boxing fight, and Fury was a shadow of himself. But Francis won 3 or 4 rounds max. So even with one of those rounds being 10-8, he didn't do enough to win and the result was fair.

[Stuntman Mike]

Same here mate, but as you know, I've been disillusioned with Tyson for a while now. His dad played the biggest role in destroying the great fighter that Tyson used to be and could have become again, imo. He came between Tyson and Uncle Pete,, which was a fantastic partnership. Then he did the same thing with Ben Davison, who was trying to rebuild the old Tyson Fury from the wreckage of his 2 year booze and coke binge, and probably would have succeeded if he hadn't been undermined by John and his ... " My son doesn't need to worry about being in shape and fancy boxing" bullshit.

And John calling Sugarhill a traitor for telling the truth about Tyson's bogus April training camp and publicly calling for Tyson to sack him, then hanging around camp like a bad smell while Sugar was trying to get Tyson ready for Ngannou wasn't exactly conducive to getting Tyson into the right mental state to perform well against anybody.

Keep on clutching at the excuses guys I haven't finished my popcorn yet

That tyson fury was the same fury that beat wilder twice,you guys just keep kidding yourselves

[PRINCEKOOL]

He definitely looked different. I called it on here in the first round.

It's not about being toned - he'll never be that under his swathes of loose skin. But he looked weak and soft under that flubber, as opposed to being big and strong. And yes, Wilder 2 is the best example of that - a big strong man, even if he didn't exactly look beach ready.

I'll still give credit to Ngannou. He was much faster than I thought he would be and his tactic (I assume it was) of not giving up anything to Fury's feints looked like it perplexed Fury. Ngannou just wouldn't go where Fury wanted to send him. I don't think I've seen anyone do that in recent years.

But it's still all about Fury. If he's anything at all then he beats Ngannou, just as the current top 10 probably would. He let himself down massively last night and there's only so long you can be undisciplined out of the ring before it catches up with you.

You can understand why Usyk wants him in the ring ASAP. If it somehow happens on Dec 23rd then Usyk should be favourite. But then Fury has a habit of proving people wrong.

Fury's brute strength is completely overrated.

What other Super Heavyweights has he bulled forward against and dominated? None.

Fury whenever he has been inside the ring with another Super Heavyweight or fighter who he does not outweigh by 40+ pounds, he has fought them on the back foot 'Or used a more measured defensive style'.

Kiltschko, Whyte, Chisora twice 'Tyson Fury fought all of those fighters pretty much on the back foot'.

Fury tried to move forward vs Wallin and was busted up real good, and the same thing happened in his first fight vs Chisora.

Pushing around Deontay Wilder in their second fight, was really not that impressive for me 'One of Wilder's worst attributes is his brute strength. Wilder's brute strength and his technical boxing abilities are his two worst attributes as a fighter'.

If Fury was to ever fight Anthony Joshua, Fury would most likely fight Joshua with a very measured approach 'I don't think he would just decided to bull forward. Anthony Joshua is 250 pound's solid these days, is a all around superior athlete to Fury and has more punching power'.

Note: Stylistically, I have always believed that Fury is a easier fight for Joshua to prepared for than Deontay Wilder 'I definitely don't think Joshua watched last nights fight, and sat there petrified of Fury's abilities' etc.

Ngannou fought a basic fight, he was disciplined and sensible with his work. If Tyson Fury was this monster fighter, with a by far more greater skill set than all other Heavyweights. Then even if his conditioning was not at it's best 'Fury should of been good enough to make the fight easier for himself'.

Fury was decked and busted up, I think his hardcore fans need to understand 'That Fury's actual fight abilities are nowhere near as great as the media and they themselves have always claimed them to be'.

Floyd Mayweather Junior by the time he fought Manny Pacquaio, I don't think Mayweather was in top form 'Mayeather Junior in that fight, had to rely heavily on his skill set and greater spatial abilities as a fighter to 1: Make the fight easier for himself vs Pacquiao. 2: To win rounds vs Pacquiao 'This is something people overlook with Mayweather, that fight vs Pacquaio was one of his best performances. Not because it was a great fight, but because I think Mayweather was there for the taking and Pacquaio for me should of just thrown caution to the wind'.

I honestly don't think Fury overlooked Ngannou. What I believe occurred last night was a the accumulation of YEARS, yes you hear that right YEARS of not fighting at a genuine high level skill for skill 'Tyson Fury has two mega wins on his resume. But outside of those wins, I don't rate Fury as a experienced fighter at World and Elite level'.

Most of Fury's experience is at fighting domestic to high end European level fights.

Tyson Fury last night fought a basic, very strong, great athlete in Francis Ngannou 'Ngannou fought a basic fight, and Fury still could not really exploit him' But if he was operating at the level which his hardcore fans claim he is at? Fury should of really been able to exploit Ngannou and made the fight much more easier'.

A retired Floyd Mayweather Junior in comparison, was able to exploit Mcgregor 'Even though Mcgregor was at his absolute peak as a athlete' etc.

[QueensburyRules]

Fury has become what he accused David Haye of being, a 'celebrity boxer'

I've now changed my prediction, Usyk will absolutely destroy him on last night's performance, it won't even be competitive.

All of Fury's antics have finally caught up with him, he gave boxing a real black eye last night, I'm so disappointed.

- - The specific light in the loafer references to Haye were, ahem, keeping in mind Blubber traveling caravan background, were “A ShyteHouse Wh0re” that Blubber has finally morphed into, praise be to his holy waters that roileth the deepest recesses of his super sized bowels.

[kafkod]

Keep on clutching at the excuses guys I haven't finished my popcorn yet

That tyson fury was the same fury that beat wilder twice,you guys just keep kidding yourselves

Fury didn't need to be at his best to beat a hype job like Wilder.

[hugh grant]

I think usyk beats fury. Usy k been.living the boxers life. I'm sure fury trains to keep depression at bay, but I get feeling fury cutting corners, or not as smart now, just power orientated

[_Rexy_]

Fury didn't need to be at his best to beat a hype job like Wilder.

Or Whyte.

[pollywog]

Needed Peter Fury in the corner

Tyson's dad needs to shoulder some blame too.