Fury clearly beat Ngannou

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  • BodyBagz
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    #61
    Fury's least satisfying W
    That novice is now the darling of boxing because of his ''clear'' W

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    • TMLT87
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      #62
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

      ...but gains yet another famous and exciting heavyweight contender, stolen from the struggling suckers running the UFC.

      That's Showbiz!

      The conquering of Mixed Martial Arts serves as Ngannou’s amateur career preparation. Once a Boxer, Always a Boxer.
      Lol the cope....
      Last edited by TMLT87; 11-03-2023, 01:29 AM.

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        #63
        My breakdown:

        Fury wins Rd 1.
        10-9 Fury.

        Fury outlanded Ngannou in 2 by one lone jab, but Ngannou did the damage, opening a cut with a punch. If you want to say that a jab outweighs a cut from a power punch, ok, you do you. 10-9 Ngannou,
        19-19 Even

        Ngannou takes 3 which is a 10-8.
        27-29 Ngannou.

        Ngannou outlands Fury in 4, beating him in both jabs and power punches. Note that the judges who gave Fury the win gave this round to Fury, despite him being outlanded in all scoring punches. 10-9 Ngannou,
        36-39 Ngannou.

        Fury wins 5 and 6. I thought 5 was closer watching it live, but I'm giving Fury the benefit of the doubt here since he landed more, even though I felt Ngannou landed the most impactful shots of the round. 10-9 10-9 Fury,
        56-57 Ngannou

        They're even in punches landed in 7, but Francis landed one more power punch, while Fury landed one more jab. That by rights should go to Ngannou, although two of the judges saw it for Fury. 10-9 Ngannou, 65-67 Ngannou.

        Ngannou wins 8. 10-9 Ngannou,
        74-77 Ngannou.

        Fury wins 9 and 10. Two of the judges saw 10 for Ngannou. 10-9 10-9 Fury,
        94-95 Ngannou.

        Final scores 94 Fury to 95 Ngannou, if you value power punches and damage over ineffective jabs. The relevant rounds that could make a difference you get to choose between one more jab landed for Fury vs damage done for Ngannou in 2, and one extra jab for Fury vs one extra power punch for Ngannou. That's leaving aside the point deduction for the illegal deliberate elbow.

        ​​​​​ If you flip 2 for Fury, on the strength of landing one extra jab, against the cut done by Ngannou, then Fury wins, unless he gets a point deduction from the elbow, which makes it a draw.

        Crazy that there's an argument that Ngannou wins on points, and if Fury wins, it's on the strength of 2 extra jabs vs a cut and an extra power punch.

        The narrative that Fury landed a bunch more jabs in most rounds isn't actually true. You can say Fury wins, but you have to do so on the strength of 1 jab per contested round IMO.
        Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 11-03-2023, 12:45 PM.

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        • davef
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          #64
          Originally posted by TMLT87

          Seriously?

          At the very least AJ and Usyk.

          Besides them, do Zhang, Makhmudov, Bakole, Hrgovic and Sanchez not exist right now? wouldnt beating them add to his legacy much more than fighting Chisora a third time followed by an MMA fighter? its arguable that every one of those 5 names I just listed would have been the third best opponent on his entire resume.

          Rematching Wlad and the Haye fight coming to fruition back in the day would have been big additions to his legacy too if he'd come out on top.
          Zhang (despite being 104 years old) has only come to the surface same with Hrgovic, Sanchez etc they are only now just lining up for mandatory positions it's not like fury avoided them?

          AJ is the only name and maybe Povetkin a few years ago that Fury is missing on his resume although AJ has become a terrified fighter in recent years.

          Fury took the belts off a man who held them for over a decade and then took them off a guy who knocked out everyone he faced after a 3 year lay off I think his resume is as good as it can be and even more so after he steps in the ring with Usyk
          Last edited by davef; 11-07-2023, 09:52 AM.

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          • davef
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            #65
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

            The guy beat Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte, that means 3 men in 10 years. His last fight with a contender was 18 month ago. And you are asking us who is missing on Fury`s record? Everybody, lol.
            Everybody like? AJ who has already been stopped and then beaten twice by Usyk? Like Price who ended up as glass? Come on man there's zero names out there that would change his legacy that he should have fought except Usyk

            Zhang and the rest no one would remember those wins over his wins vs Wilder and Wlad.

            They mean nothing people say this stuff about Floyd simply because of Margarito mainly its ridiculous yet he fought and beat cotto at 154 who went on a run at MW after and Oscar at 154 two fighter Pac fought at CW and people give him as pass

            Why am I mentioning Mayweather? Cos it's the same thing with Fury people dislike him and the diva he has become so pick apart his resume but you can do that to any fighter hell Crawford beats the chit out of Spence after being called a fraud at WW and now everyone claims Spence was a zombie lol

            Boxing fans just move the goal posts when the truth is Fury has beaten every man he's stepped in the ring with and we about to find out who is greater him or Usyk
            Last edited by davef; 11-07-2023, 10:03 AM.

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            • -Kev-
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              #66
              For it to even be an argument is embarrassing

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                #67
                Fury lost

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by 1lparm

                  The so called TBE went almost 10 rounds with a guy that was 0-0 in his pro debut. Don’t make this out to be mma guys are bums that can’t fight. A world class combat athlete could be decent in any combat form
                  May was shot and carried McG.
                  At no point was May in danger of losing
                  Also, May is not known for KOing guys.

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