To everyone who thinks that NGannou won

[dan-b]

The opposite of a "nut hugger".

I think most people fall somewhere in between, it's just the two extremes are overrepresented online as they are most inclined to make themselves known. A good example is Twitter, where literally, statistically, most people who use it don't even 'like' Tweets because they're public actions. So what you're left with is two extremes hollering at each other, many of whom probably have mental health problems of varying kinds.

[N/A]

I think most people fall somewhere in between, it's just the two extremes are overrepresented online as they are most inclined to make themselves known. A good example is Twitter, where literally, statistically, most people who use it don't even 'like' Tweets because they're public actions. So what you're left with is two extremes hollering at each other, many of whom probably have mental health problems of varying kinds.

What's missing too often is a proper understanding of one's arguments. If you say something pro or against anyone, it doesn't necessarily mean you stand 100% behind or against him, but you try to show things aren't just black and white in life. Plus, people tend to forget if one has done something good/great before and get him for what he currently is.

Most of all, I don't get that emotional investment in somebody or against him. It's just a sport and most of all, it should matter what they show in the ring, for the sake of boxing and in case one is a practitioner - to probably learn something. What they do outside of the ring is something we should pay less attention to, because it's been enough decades people get involved in bull*hit spectacle of someone. But what about if he avoids another opponent - well, it's for him (and brings nothing to people, just as his success doesn't), history will look back at the actions and may probably judge it better than us who are witnessing it.

[BodyBagz]

The opposite of a "nut hugger".

In some instances, it's hard not to hate a fighter. Fury being a prime example.

I am a certified Fury hater.
I only wish I can shrink him down 4''s just to prove he isn't as good as his nuthuggers say he is.
He is supremely fortunate this HW era is so abysmal.

That being said, I am fully capable of being honest.
He is a better, smarter boxer than Wilder (big whoop) and should have won all 3.

IMHO, nuthuggers are less likely to be HONEST than a hater.

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In some instances, it's hard not to hate a fighter. Fury being a prime example.

I am a certified Fury hater.
I only wish I can shrink him down 4''s just to prove he isn't as good as his nuthuggers say he is.
He is supremely fortunate this HW era is so abysmal.

That being said, I am fully capable of being honest.
He is a better, smarter boxer than Wilder (big whoop) and should have won all 3.

IMHO, nuthuggers are less likely to be HONEST than a hater.

I avoid accusing someone of being a hard fan or a hater, it's idiotic (as nobody is obliged to like or dislike some person or whatever). The only problem is the way people comment and exchange. I can also agree the "nuthuggers" are less likely to be honest, but I also think "the haters" are less likely to be objective and capable of seeing some details. In the end, this is just a sport and those are just some athletes who don't care about us, regardless of what they say.

[dan-b]

What's missing too often is a proper understanding of one's arguments. If you say something pro or against anyone, it doesn't necessarily mean you stand 100% behind or against him, but you try to show things aren't just black and white in life. Plus, people tend to forget if one has done something good/great before and get him for what he currently is.

Most of all, I don't get that emotional investment in somebody or against him. It's just a sport and most of all, it should matter what they show in the ring, for the sake of boxing and in case one is a practitioner - to probably learn something. What they do outside of the ring is something we should pay less attention to, because it's been enough decades people get involved in bull*hit spectacle of someone. But what about if he avoids another opponent - well, it's for him (and brings nothing to people, just as his success doesn't), history will look back at the actions and may probably judge it better than us who are witnessing it.

My problem with Fury is that he hasn't fought a proper heavyweight campaign akin to what we're used to. It's inevitable people will examine him as an individual to find out why that may be. Personality wise I find him dull, but I say the same about most people from the sports and entertainment industry. I actually find most interviews with these people awkward to watch and I tend to avoid it. I don't look to film "stars" or elite athletes for intellectual stimulation.

Fury hasn't happened in a vacuum, he's a product of this social media driven edgelord grifter culture. Andrew Tate, an ugly, uninteresting, loud mouth, who repackaged some alt-right/manosphere talking points became the most famous person in the world. He managed to get a lot of discontented young males thinking he was some profound visionary because he spoke with loud "confidence" (obnoxiousness).

That's not to say Fury doesn't have genuine boxing talent, but strip away the hype and you're left with a semi-active, ungainly looking man who hasn't fought many of his peers in the heavyweight division. I fail to see what's impressive about this.

[BodyBagz]

I avoid accusing someone of being a hard fan or a hater, it's idiotic (as nobody is obliged to like or dislike some person or whatever). The only problem is the way people comment and exchange. I can also agree the "nuthuggers" are less likely to be honest, but I also think "the haters" are less likely to be objective and capable of seeing some details. In the end, this is just a sport and those are just some athletes who don't care about us, regardless of what they say.

In most cases, a so called fight fan will expose themselves as such.
TBF, it is perfectly normal to hate/''love'' an athlete, celeb, musician more/less than others.
People have preferences.
Some people like brawlers more than slicksters
It becomes a problem when a fan sees shlt that never happened or become hypocritical.
Case in point;
RESUMES
We all know a shltty resume when we see one.
Haters/huggers will expose themselves within seconds in this regard

BTW, no entertainer/athlete loves their fans except Dolly FKN Parton

[BodyBagz]

Silence

Get yer ass in here

[dan-b]

Silence

Get yer ass in here

Any sign of denium also?

[BodyBagz]

Any sign of denium also?

I think he came to his senses and dumped the tub of lard

[TMLT87]

My problem with Fury is that he hasn't fought a proper heavyweight campaign akin to what we're used to. It's inevitable people will examine him as an individual to find out why that may be. Personality wise I find him dull, but I say the same about most people from the sports and entertainment industry. I actually find most interviews with these people awkward to watch and I tend to avoid it. I don't look to film "stars" or elite athletes for intellectual stimulation.

Fury hasn't happened in a vacuum, he's a product of this social media driven edgelord grifter culture. Andrew Tate, an ugly, uninteresting, loud mouth, who repackaged some alt-right/manosphere talking points became the most famous person in the world. He managed to get a lot of discontented young males thinking he was some profound visionary because he spoke with loud "confidence" (obnoxiousness).

That's not to say Fury doesn't have genuine boxing talent, but strip away the hype and you're left with a semi-active, ungainly looking man who hasn't fought many of his peers in the heavyweight division. I fail to see what's impressive about this.

Fury was definitely overhyped and has a weak resume, but hes not the only one. Most of the current top 10 have barely fought anyone. Out of the current crop Joshua is the only guy who has beat a decent number of notable opponents, but he also lacks a really strong signature win over a highly rated prime opponent, and has losses too.