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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #31
    Originally posted by fifth_root

    Ngannou has no attributes apart from strength (which is the reason for probably every heavyweight boxer to avoid clinching with him) and good condition. He lacks speed, cardio, lacks intelligence and that is what makes Fury's performance under such a big question - he fought way better boxers and did amazing things in the past, so what happened now?

    Maybe not you, I didn't mean it personally, but look at what many people are talking, like Ngannou dominated the division, while he lost a close fight in a good performance of his, but again - he lost, despite the pathetic performance of Fury. So yeah, it isn't complicated, it is indeed simple, but you have to look it the right way.
    I had ngannou winning by a round,you do know how much money is at stake in Saudi for the usyk fight yes?

    Nobody has countered fury like that with left hooks in between his combinations so ngannou does have skills and being level headed like that under pressure is not something that's taught,you either have it or you don't.

    The only other present heavy I can think of who does that is Andy ruiz (well the one that fought joshua anyways)

    Before you say it no I don't think ruiz would beat Fury however I do think ngannou has SKILLS alot of highly trained boxers don't possess and countering whilst taking oncoming punches is certainly one of those things

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      #32
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

      I had ngannou winning by a round,you do know how much money is at stake in Saudi for the usyk fight yes?

      Nobody has countered fury like that with left hooks in between his combinations so ngannou does have skills and being level headed like that under pressure is not something that's taught,you either have it or you don't.

      The only other present heavy I can think of who does that is Andy ruiz (well the one that fought joshua anyways)

      Before you say it no I don't think ruiz would beat Fury however I do think ngannou has SKILLS alot of highly trained boxers don't possess and countering whilst taking oncoming punches is certainly one of those things
      And again - Ngannou won people's hearts because of his performance, but overall won 3 rounds because Fury obviously wasn't training for months and underestimated everything. He paid the price, he can't excuse with it.

      You can think that Ruiz is going to beat Fury, I am not going to "attack you" because of that. If Fury intends to stay in similar shape, he better retire, as he will be beaten badly.

      About the Saudi's money - do you know how much money is in Fury-Usyk? Some people can use that in order to support the claim Ngannou won, but rewatch the fight out of any sympathies and stick to the rules of scoring...

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        #33
        Tyson won but he didnt win convincingly. It shouldnt be that close and the rounds he won he didnt dominate. He fought a guy who is older with zero experience and he still had 2" reach on him, it shouldnt be so many casuals on twitter crying "robbery", he was dropped and won by split decision.....


        Tyson way underestimated this guy and he was ****** to make this fight 2 months before trying to have a unification fight, he should have no distractions and be fully ready. The whole time he was fighting I am wondering is he scared of francis's power or is he afraid to get more cuts and ruin the Usyk fight? no idea but I dont believe him that he trained hard for this and even if he had no cuts no black eye how the *** does he think he is ready for unification in 2 months. I think fury has been on another bender for the past year.

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          #34
          Originally posted by elfag
          Tyson won but he didnt win convincingly. It shouldnt be that close and the rounds he won he didnt dominate. He fought a guy who is older with zero experience and he still had 2" reach on him, it shouldnt be so many casuals on twitter crying "robbery", he was dropped and won by split decision.....


          Tyson way underestimated this guy and he was ****** to make this fight 2 months before trying to have a unification fight, he should have no distractions and be fully ready. The whole time he was fighting I am wondering is he scared of francis's power or is he afraid to get more cuts and ruin the Usyk fight? no idea but I dont believe him that he trained hard for this and even if he had no cuts no black eye how the *** does he think he is ready for unification in 2 months. I think fury has been on another bender for the past year.
          Fury`s last true fight with top contender is Whyte about 18 months ago.

          Fury felt in love with his own hype, he started to believe all that sh.it how is he better than anybody without even fighting guys. Now is he paying some prize.

          I expected for him something like that, but not against MMA guy.

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            #35
            There's no conspiracy, Fury just sucks that much, There's a reason he doesn't fight the legit contenders who by now might never get their time to shine.

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              #36
              Originally posted by elfag
              Tyson won but he didnt win convincingly. It shouldnt be that close and the rounds he won he didnt dominate. He fought a guy who is older with zero experience and he still had 2" reach on him, it shouldnt be so many casuals on twitter crying "robbery", he was dropped and won by split decision.....


              Tyson way underestimated this guy and he was ****** to make this fight 2 months before trying to have a unification fight, he should have no distractions and be fully ready. The whole time he was fighting I am wondering is he scared of francis's power or is he afraid to get more cuts and ruin the Usyk fight? no idea but I dont believe him that he trained hard for this and even if he had no cuts no black eye how the *** does he think he is ready for unification in 2 months. I think fury has been on another bender for the past year.
              Well said. Plus, the point you make about the cuts is valid, even though people will disregard it. Sure, it can't be an excuse, as it was up to him to be properly prepared and dominate the fight, not necessarily winning it via KO/TKO.

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                #37
                Originally posted by fifth_root

                And again - Ngannou won people's hearts because of his performance, but overall won 3 rounds because Fury obviously wasn't training for months and underestimated everything. He paid the price, he can't excuse with it.

                You can think that Ruiz is going to beat Fury, I am not going to "attack you" because of that. If Fury intends to stay in similar shape, he better retire, as he will be beaten badly.

                About the Saudi's money - do you know how much money is in Fury-Usyk? Some people can use that in order to support the claim Ngannou won, but rewatch the fight out of any sympathies and stick to the rules of scoring...
                Fury paid a price for not training and can't excuse it but you scored the fight in his favour for doing what exactly ?

                He lost 6 rounds clearly and was knocked down

                Please tell me the rounds fury won

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  Fury paid a price for not training and can't excuse it but you scored the fight in his favour for doing what exactly ?

                  He lost 6 rounds clearly and was knocked down

                  Please tell me the rounds fury won
                  fury won under floyd rules where if you dont get beaten to a pulp in a round you must win that round even if you do nothing yourself

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by elfag
                    Tyson won but he didnt win convincingly. It shouldnt be that close and the rounds he won he didnt dominate. He fought a guy who is older with zero experience and he still had 2" reach on him, it shouldnt be so many casuals on twitter crying "robbery", he was dropped and won by split decision.....


                    Tyson way underestimated this guy and he was ****** to make this fight 2 months before trying to have a unification fight, he should have no distractions and be fully ready. The whole time he was fighting I am wondering is he scared of francis's power or is he afraid to get more cuts and ruin the Usyk fight? no idea but I dont believe him that he trained hard for this and even if he had no cuts no black eye how the *** does he think he is ready for unification in 2 months. I think fury has been on another bender for the past year.
                    Not a chance once he felt that power the last thing he thought about was the usyk fight,he was just hoping his shorts didn't turn a shade of brown and yellow

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                      Fury paid a price for not training and can't excuse it but you scored the fight in his favour for doing what exactly ?

                      He lost 6 rounds clearly and was knocked down

                      Please tell me the rounds fury won
                      Paying the price by performing poorly doesn't mean you don't get the victory.

                      There is no point in telling you any rounds since you believe Ngannou did enough to win.

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