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RATE IT: Tyson Fury Lands a PICTURE PERFECT Elbow On Francis Ngannou (who shrugged it off btw)

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  • #21
    Originally posted by BKM- View Post
    If this had been MMA, Fury would have been finished inside of 1 minute. Forget about the fact that Ngannou would grab him, dump him on his head and hammerfist him into another dimension.

    He would simply knock him out standing, with boxing. He already proved he's a better boxer.
    then why didn't he knock him out?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BKM- View Post
      Boxing fans always claimed MMA guys can't punch or take a punch.

      Ngannou showed a cast iron jaw while Fury got dropped. Sweet irony.
      Still say that Wilder cracked whatever was left of Fury's overall punch resistance. USS Cunningham's drop was a good one, but it was a one-off. Only Wilder was able to repeatedly do it, and then you see a non-boxer land what looked like a half-missed punch from his NON-strong hand and put him down.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by gauze View Post
        then why didn't he knock him out?
        Under MMA rules that fight most likely ends when Fury got dropped. Ngannou would have rushed in and finished him on the ground. Also...4oz gloves.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

          Still say that Wilder cracked whatever was left of Fury's overall punch resistance. USS Cunningham's drop was a good one, but it was a one-off. Only Wilder was able to repeatedly do it, and then you see a non-boxer land what looked like a half-missed punch from his NON-strong hand and put him down.
          Ngannou has power in both hands for sure but his strongest punch is the left uppercut, second is the left hook.

          He didn't land as cleanly as Wilder did but had the same effect. Actually, more. After Fury tasted Ngannou's power he could no longer pull the trigger and was shook for the rest of the fight. Every time Wilder dropped him he recovered and actually took the fight to Wilder even more.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BKM- View Post
            Boxing fans always claimed MMA guys can't punch or take a punch.

            Ngannou showed a cast iron jaw while Fury got dropped. Sweet irony.
            Yeah I expected Ngannou had a good chin going into this. Definitely more so than someone like a 2022 version of Dillian Shyte who had been knocked out cold repeatedly by that point.

            In that Stipe rematch just before he got the finish he rushed in a little prematurely and got caught HARD right on the chin with a big shot that stopped him dead in his tracks, it was the type of shot that would have dropped or at least wobbled most opponents, and he shook it off then got the finish shortly after.

            Also plenty of MMA guys have chins and can punch. I'm sure a lot of boxing fans will want to damage control and tell themselves Ngannou must be a once in a lifetime thing, but the guy was getting outstruck by the technically superior and equally athletic Gane in his last fight. Also Pavlovich looks to have similar power to Ngannou.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

              Yeah I expected Ngannou had a good chin going into this. Definitely more so than someone like a 2022 version of Dillian Shyte who had been knocked out cold repeatedly by that point.

              In that Stipe rematch just before he got the finish he rushed in a little prematurely and got caught HARD right on the chin with a big shot that stopped him dead in his tracks, it was the type of shot that would have dropped or at least wobbled most opponents, and he shook it off then got the finish shortly after.

              Also plenty of MMA guys have chins and can punch. I'm sure a lot of boxing fans will want to damage control and tell themselves Ngannou must be a once in a lifetime thing, but the guy was getting outstruck by the technically superior and equally athletic Gane in his last fight. Also Pavlovich looks to have similar power to Ngannou.
              He had a torn MCL and ACL that require surgery going into the fight, he couldn't move anywhere near the same way...don't compare.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by jaded View Post

                He had a torn MCL and ACL that require surgery going into the fight, he couldn't move anywhere near the same way...don't compare.
                Gane is just more technically skilled on the feet and shut down his power game.

                Remember he was also scared to engage against Lewis and got outstruck in the first Stipe fight.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post
                  https://twitter.com/SpinninBackfist/...05713754534081

                  That, That was done on PURPOSE! Luckily those are legal in MMA so he’s use to those shot.
                  Should if been disqualified for that.
                  I guarantee you if Ngannou would have done that. He would have been disqualified.
                  Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 10-29-2023, 10:42 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

                    Under MMA rules that fight most likely ends when Fury got dropped. Ngannou would have rushed in and finished him on the ground. Also...4oz gloves.
                    no i think he's saying that ngannou knocks him out in mma just boxing with fists only, no grappling or ground and pound, kicks etc.
                    4oz gloves? those are designed to allow fighters to grapple, not to maximize striking damage on the other guy's face. just like boxing gloves aren't designed to protect the opponent's face, it's to protect your hands. i dunno what kind of handwraps they use under the mma gloves, but i doubt they're anything like the concrete blocks that boxing wraps can be. i'd much rather get hit with the mma glove than a boxing glove

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

                      That, That was done on PURPOSE! Luckily those are legal in MMA so he’s use to those shot.
                      Should if been disqualified for that.
                      I guarantee you if Ngannou would have done that. He would have been disqualified.
                      i see the elbow like that in boxing matches pretty regularly and i've never seen anyone dq'd because of it. i feel like it's a difficult thing to do by accident. there's a part in the andre ward vs sakio bika where ward throws a blatant tong po muy thai elbow at jean claude van bika

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