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  • Oracle01
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    #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    His last fight with Charlo drew 800k PPV buys.
    You mean 700k. Pretty average for Canelo.

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      His last fight with Charlo drew 800k PPV buys.

      So the guy is setting all-time American indoor records in attendance AND had the second biggest PPV of 2023 behind only Ryan Garcia vs Tank. All within the past two years.

      That’s pretty much as massive as it gets. Only a petty little hater like you would still find something negative to say about that.
      Now you’re just gonna make shyt up? His fight with Charlo did not draw 800k Ppv buys. Even if it did, which it didn’t, that’s still not “massive”. Massive implies massive money generated and a 9 mil gate isn’t massive. If his fight with Saunders was massive, why was that his final fight under subscription with Dazn and his very next fight with dazn they had to embarrassingly walk back their “Ppv is dead” statement and start making Canelo fights Ppv’s? It’s because he didn’t generate the kind of money that justified paying him what he was getting. Aka, nothing canelo has done in 5 years can be considered “massive”. Only a **** riding groupie would try to claim it is.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        Now you’re just gonna make shyt up? His fight with Charlo did not draw 800k Ppv buys. Even if it did, which it didn’t, that’s still not “massive”. Massive implies massive money generated and a 9 mil gate isn’t massive. If his fight with Saunders was massive, why was that his final fight under subscription with Dazn and his very next fight with dazn they had to embarrassingly walk back their “Ppv is dead” statement and start making Canelo fights Ppv’s? It’s because he didn’t generate the kind of money that justified paying him what he was getting. Aka, nothing canelo has done in 5 years can be considered “massive”. Only a **** riding groupie would try to claim it is.
        The second highest grossing PPV of the year qualifies as massive.

        The all-time US indoor record attendance for boxing certainly qualifies as massive.

        You can try to define the word very narrowly just to support your bullsh1t hater narrative if you want.

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          #24
          Canelo could take a **** in the ring and it would do a decent PPV number. Neither of those two being involved would make for a "massive" fight compared to a typical Canelo fight, and he'd ****ing murder both of them.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            The second highest grossing PPV of the year qualifies as massive.

            The all-time US indoor record attendance for boxing certainly qualifies as massive.

            You can try to define the word very narrowly just to support your bullsh1t hater narrative if you want.
            There’s nothing confirming it was the second highest Ppv of the year. They said between 650-700k which is the same as Crawford vs Spence. Probably did less than some of the YouTube boxing events. Boxing has been doing trash numbers for a while now because fighters don’t make meaningful fights as often any more, so your claim of where it ranked for the year, is like calling a kid the smartest ret@rd in a class, which is a reference you can likely relate to. If it didn’t sell a mil Ppv’s, it’s not “massive”. If it did a 9 mil gate which is less than half of major boxing events, it’s not massive. Sure canelo vs saunders had a great turnout at the stadium but massive fights generate massive money. That fight didn’t. If you want to pretend it is to support your nut guzzling narrative, that’s fine. But don’t try to convince people smarter than you otherwise.

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              #26
              Just saw on mexican tv (tudn) that canelo might squeeze another fight this year before showtime closes business, jake paul on December 30th..
              haymon and showtime will try to .make the most while they can, while you can still get benavidez-andrade winner win5 de mayo next year..

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                #27
                Originally posted by boxingitis
                Massive fight but not competitive. Everyone wants Canelo vs Benavidez, not this.
                THIS. Of course it will sell. It's two undefeated ****ers from Mexico and Puerto Rico. It sells itself. Is it competitive? Not in the effing slightest. Bet the house on Munguia smashing Berlanga to bits. And I say that with the same confidence when Mayweather took on Berto. EASY WIN.

                Munguia has at least shown grit by surviving a damn near Derevyenchenko stoppage and then bit down on the mouthpiece and poured it on strong in the final rounds. Berlanga would've just coasted and conceded defeat after a scare like that midway through the fight.

                It'll sell, but Berlanga CANNOT win this fight. Not in the slightest.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant

                  Its not going to draw money because no one is going to buy overmatched Berlanga against undisputed champion Canelo.
                  You'll be surprised

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    There’s nothing confirming it was the second highest Ppv of the year. They said between 650-700k which is the same as Crawford vs Spence. Probably did less than some of the YouTube boxing events. Boxing has been doing trash numbers for a while now because fighters don’t make meaningful fights as often any more, so your claim of where it ranked for the year, is like calling a kid the smartest ret@rd in a class, which is a reference you can likely relate to. If it didn’t sell a mil Ppv’s, it’s not “massive”. If it did a 9 mil gate which is less than half of major boxing events, it’s not massive. Sure canelo vs saunders had a great turnout at the stadium but massive fights generate massive money. That fight didn’t. If you want to pretend it is to support your nut guzzling narrative, that’s fine. But don’t try to convince people smarter than you otherwise.
                    A guy fills a stadium with an all-time US record crowd to watch a boxing match but that’s not massive. lol. Ok.

                    Like most irrational haters you aren’t very bright. And certainly not smarter than me. According to Dan Rafael:

                    ”Alvarez-Charlo, which headlined a Premier Boxing Champions card on Showtime PPV, clocked in as the second-highest selling boxing pay-per-view card of the year so far in the United States.”



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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      A guy fills a stadium with an all-time US record crowd to watch a boxing match but that’s not massive. lol. Ok.

                      Like most irrational haters you aren’t very bright. And certainly not smarter than me. According to Dan Rafael:

                      ”Alvarez-Charlo, which headlined a Premier Boxing Champions card on Showtime PPV, clocked in as the second-highest selling boxing pay-per-view card of the year so far in the United States.”

                      https://danrafael.substack.com/p/can...on-over-charlo
                      quote from your article

                      “While the numbers are not final, as they are still being tallied” ………….and their final tally said between 650-700k which is the same exact range quoted for Crawford vs Spence.
                      I already explained to you why it’s not massive but I can’t help you to understand. Your brain clearly has certain limitations. Knock yourself out with your belief that a 9 mil gate is massive while the rest of us deal with reality.





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