Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua's Bubble Has Been Burst - Spanked By Usyk Twice, KO'd By a Fat Man

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"Joshua's bubble has been burst - spanked by Usyk twice, KO'd by a fat man" is 100% of the truth about the heartless British dosser. He rejected two fights against Fury in just a couple of months, now he won't be facing Wilder with more ****** excuses. Joshua has no chance against either of the two, he knows it, Eddie knows it. He is not "a better match up for Fury than he was for Usyk" - he is worse. Maybe, just maybe, he could have been before.

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It was the biggest fight possible in the division.

Find a better counter argument to my fact than "sloppy seconds" because, honestly, that's embarrassing patter on a boxing forum.

FFS "sloppy seconds". Are you even a man?

More of a man than you'll ever be, Skippy.

Stop getting offended just because someone insulted your boyfriend aGay

[NEETzschean]

A lot of people pretend to like Joshua because he is a loser. Every historical heavyweight champion (barring Rocky Marciano) is in the loser's club, so Joshua makes all of the past heavies who lost look better. Since almost all of them lost, the chances are that your favourite non-current heavyweight will be a loser. Which breeds resentment of winners.

Joshua doesn't have three losses because he "took risks", he lost because he wasn't nearly as good as advertised. When was Joshua ever not the A-side? He fought away from home just once, where he lost. And he was the underdog just once in 29 pro fights, where he lost. He and his team swerved Ortiz, Wilder and Fury, regardless of the fanboy apologetics.

Ortiz has been the underdog three times in 38 fights and never once fought at home, he was away/B-side against Wilder x2 and Ruiz at 43.

Fury has been the underdog four times in 34 fights (it would be five if Haye hadn't ducked 7 days out) and has fought away from home in all of his four biggest fights, three times against reigning champions.

Wilder fought undefeated Ortiz and Fury x3.

[NEETzschean]

"Joshua's bubble has been burst - spanked by Usyk twice, KO'd by a fat man" is 100% of the truth about the heartless British dosser. He rejected two fights against Fury in just a couple of months, now he won't be facing Wilder with more ****** excuses. Joshua has no chance against either of the two, he knows it, Eddie knows it. He is not "a better match up for Fury than he was for Usyk" - he is worse. Maybe, just maybe, he could have been before.

Before Usyk twice schooled Joshua the consensus was that Usyk was a featherfisted cruiser who struggled with 9 loss journeyman Chisora and that he would be easy work for Joshua, especially as Joshua had home, A-side and champion advantage in London. But now that Usyk has twice schooled Joshua the AJ apologists claim that Fury's an easier stylistic matchup for AJ! Based on AJ's amazing and recent success against big heavies like Breazeale, 41 year old Wlad and post-Wilder KO1 Helenius no doubt.

[NEETzschean]

Committed to undesputed?? When? When he ducked Wilder in 18? When he ducked Fury last year?
After Aj said in an interview "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" & said "19 20 21" Eddie then told reporters "he (Wilder) might loose by then"

The only plan they've ever been committed to is least risk for most reward, hoping to get the wbc with another easy touch.

"he (Wilder) might loose by then"

Could you link that?

I've got the other quote and more:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4620257/anthony-joshua-vs-kubrat-pulev-deontay-wilder-wembley/
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ears-one-punch

[Mr WorldWide]

Some weirdo's on here......

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A lot of people pretend to like Joshua because he is a loser. Every historical heavyweight champion (barring Rocky Marciano) is in the loser's club, so Joshua makes all of the past heavies who lost look better. Since almost all of them lost, the chances are that your favourite non-current heavyweight will be a loser. Which breeds resentment of winners.

Joshua doesn't have three losses because he "took risks", he lost because he wasn't nearly as good as advertised. When was Joshua ever not the A-side? He fought away from home just once, where he lost. And he was the underdog just once in 29 pro fights, where he lost. He and his team swerved Ortiz, Wilder and Fury, regardless of the fanboy apologetics.

Ortiz has been the underdog three times in 38 fights and never once fought at home, he was away/B-side against Wilder x2 and Ruiz at 43.

Fury has been the underdog four times in 34 fights (it would be five if Haye hadn't ducked 7 days out) and has fought away from home in all of his four biggest fights, three times against reigning champions.

Wilder fought undefeated Ortiz and Fury x3.

Well said.

AJ has been the A side his entire career and has had everything his own way, yet has still never defeated a real champion. It's Fury who goes to champions backyards and dethrones them.

Brits love a loser though

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Who were the 40 year olds he was 'perfectly matched up against'.

He was matched up against Klitschko which was a great fight and the best fight that could possibly be made at the time. And it was for another title.

Then Takam was a mandatory. So was Povetkin. In between them, when he didn't have a mandatory, he fought a unification against one of the two other titlists in Parker.

When he finally got a chance to choose his opponent he went with Miller who wasn't 40. Then late notice Ruiz who also wasn't 40.

Then Pulev was a mandatory.

Then Usyk was a mandatory.

All facts, right?

My only issue with Joshua, is that at least on the surface, he appears willing to accept a fight against anyone EXCEPT Deontay Wilder.

That fight when they were both undefeated and Joshua was actually taking risks in the ring would have sold huge around the world and changed the scope of things significantly, because I believe Fury would have stayed on the couch and refused to fight the undisputed winner, and I also believe that person would have beaten Usyk because of the rush of being undisputed.

It's why I wish I could find a really good Node.JS or other developer that wanted to build a visual of the history of fights through the years, and allow someone to play with the results in 'what-if' scenarios.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Well said.

AJ has been the A side his entire career and has had everything his own way, yet has still never defeated a real champion.

Joshua took the IBF from Charles Martin.

And yes, I do think Martin threw the fight, but it doesn't change the fact that Joshua took the belt from him in the ring on the night.

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Joshua took the IBF from Charles Martin.

And yes, I do think Martin threw the fight, but it doesn't the fact that Joshua took the belt from him in the ring on the night.

Charles Martin wasn't a real champion lol, he won a vacant belt against some nobody who had a busted knee.

The closest AJ has ever come to beating a real champion is Klitschko, however Fury had already dethroned him.

I don't class belt holders like Martin & Parker as real champions.