Where will pbc and espinoza go?

[OnePunch]

Or it was so successful that offers were coming in that were too expensive for Showtime to match considering Showtime will be shutting down in a few years.

LOL. Keep telling yourself that........

[dan-b]

LOL. Keep telling yourself that........

Are you still involved with any promotions?

[BenjaminLinus]

Brian Custer dropped off an application at White Castle.

[RENE JUNIOR]

IMO is was too much poor quality content, combined with fighter inactivity. Their top guys were mostly fighting non-competitive in-house fights once or twice a year. VERY hard to build fan interest using that model. I mean, think about it for a minute. PBC started in what, 2015 I think? So in the past EIGHT YEARS, with a pretty much unlimited budget, how many memorable PBC fights can you name off the top of your head? 10? 12? Bottom line its not enough to offset the damage they did to the overall sport

Very well said.
The thing here is even fighters coming out saying they should reinvent the sport and making it all sound pretty with great ideas, but NONE of them are mentioning the best fighting the best in a more consistent basis.

That is the very meat of the matter and as long as these promoters and fighters keep ingoring that, it will continue to look grim for the rest of the platforms.

[RENE JUNIOR]

PBC bought time on multiple networks to flood the market with their brand before signing a paid deal with a network. PBC didn't destroy their relationship with anyone. PBC just had the most successful string of events in the history of boxing.

...But it seems like the issue here is the mubers weren't showing it in regards to viewership on Showtime.
I understand that's why they are booting Showtime Boxing. Something along the ratio of less than 10% and they couldn't meet the expectations

[RENE JUNIOR]

Cable networks would rather invest on TV series now, similar to HBO's investment on Game Of Thrones.
They're easy to sell in the international market. Plus they employ hundreds of people from set designers,
make up artists, costume designers, tailors, props makers, actors, extras, visual effects artists, script writers,
directors, camera men, musicians for the soundtrack, you name it.
In boxing only few greedy fighters benefit with the guise of they're risking their lives doe. Kills me.
Hundreds of soldiers are sent to the war front without any chance of probably having their own homes...

Wow well said man

[RENE JUNIOR]

yeah, it was SOOOOO successful that their network dumped boxing in its entirety.

That's what I was thinking.
Mind you, I love PBC an what they do, but it seems like their numbers simply didn't add up for Showtime

[OnePunch]

Are you still involved with any promotions?

I get pitched frequently to advise or consult on promotions, or even be a site coordinator for an established promotion, but truthfully I really enjoy just being a spectator these days.

All of the fun and joy of being "in" the business faded a long time ago......

[OnePunch]

Cable networks would rather invest on TV series now, similar to HBO's investment on Game Of Thrones.
They're easy to sell in the international market. Plus they employ hundreds of people from set designers,
make up artists, costume designers, tailors, props makers, actors, extras, visual effects artists, script writers,
directors, camera men, musicians for the soundtrack, you name it.
In boxing only few greedy fighters benefit with the guise of they're risking their lives doe. Kills me.
Hundreds of soldiers are sent to the war front without any chance of probably having their own homes...

Correct. And also its worth noting that series like GOT, or even much less popular shows, can be profitable for a network for years to come. Shows will be streamed 5, 10, 20 years down the road, meanwhile 99% of fights are watched ONCE and then forgotten forever. For every Corrales vs Castillo or Ward vs Gatti fight, there are 100,000 Haney vs Kambosos 2 or Andrade vs Sulecki type matches that will never be viewed a 2nd time.

In the current climate where very few #1 vs #2 type matches take place, boxing is a bad investment for a broadcaster.....

[RENE JUNIOR]

I get pitched frequently to advise or consult on promotions, or even be a site coordinator for an established promotion, but truthfully I really enjoy just being a spectator these days.

All of the fun and joy of being "in" the business faded a long time ago......

Wow that's cool!

I am sure you learned w whole lot in the industry