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  • dan-b
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    #151
    Originally posted by Lefty0616
    I always say this. While he made millions, Floyd killed the love of boxing. He fought a lot of handpicked opponents and had no classic bouts....down the stretch of his career.
    Not sure about the love of boxing but certainly my love of boxing. I slowly disengaged during his time on top. The only thing more tedious than his opponent selection was listening to him talk about "muh PPV numbers". Who else did that?

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    • dan-b
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      #152
      Originally posted by Echo Falls
      “What’s up Espinoza?”
      Embarrassing all round, McGregor is a clown.

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        #153
        Originally posted by MesicoFistology
        Stephen Espinoza owns everyone an apology then. He acted ****** saying he didn’t know what they were talking about l. Mongoloid weasel idiot.
        He was probably bound by an NDA (non disclosure agreement). Very common at executive level in the corporate world.

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        • Lefty0616
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          #154
          Originally posted by dan-b

          Not sure about the love of boxing but certainly my love of boxing. I slowly disengaged during his time on top. The only thing more tedious than his opponent selection was listening to him talk about "muh PPV numbers". Who else did that?
          When I say the love, I mean my love and those that could be influenced by their generation of boxers' love.

          I'm a 70s baby. I grew up and was influenced by a generation of warriors. Therefore, I was captivated by boxing. 80s babies and later most likely got their introduction to boxing during Floyd's reign at top. While he's an exceptional boxer, he didn't have exceptional bouts - and he can blame himself by carefully selecting opponents that he knew he could beat. He didn't dare to be great late in his career. He made millions.......And his generation got exposed to boxing while he reigned, but they didn't take to boxing - like they did during my era. He didn't give them a reason to fall in love with the sport. Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Ward, Gatti, Barrera, Morales, DLH, Chavez, Whitaker, Ali, Benn, and more gave me a reason to become a lover of boxing.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Lefty0616

            When I say the love, I mean my love and those that could be influenced by their generation of boxers' love.

            I'm a 70s baby. I grew up and was influenced by a generation of warriors. Therefore, I was captivated by boxing. 80s babies and later most likely got their introduction to boxing during Floyd's reign at top. While he's an exceptional boxer, he didn't have exceptional bouts - and he can blame himself by carefully selecting opponents that he knew he could beat. He didn't dare to be great late in his career. He made millions.......And his generation got exposed to boxing while he reigned, but they didn't take to boxing - like they did during my era. He didn't give them a reason to fall in love with the sport. Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Ward, Gatti, Barrera, Morales, DLH, Chavez, Whitaker, Ali, Benn, and more gave me a reason to become a lover of boxing.

            Excellent post. And I think the change occurred as Floyd transitioned from "Pretty Boy Floyd" to "Money Mayweather". The entire fanbase changed. They were only interested in his wealth, not his in-ring achievements. He might as well have been a rapper, or football player, or hedge fund manager. His fan base didnt care what he actually did, only that he made bags of money. Kids didnt watch him and want to become a fighter, they watched him and just wanted to be rich.

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              #156
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg

              I've said it for a while that boxers are simply being paid too much. They demand it now even to fight and certainly demand insane money to fight another worthy opponent. The "if the money is right" is actually killing the sport and promoters, all of them, really need to stop catering to that. It's the guarantees that are killing the sport. Only big time matchups need to be million dollar paydays
              It needs to happen and fans need to be unanimous on this.

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                #157
                Originally posted by PRchamp

                PBC deals with Bounce,Spike TV, CBS, NBC and Showtime all ended terrible, Showtime was still dealing with PBC since the Weasel Espinoza is Haymonâs lap dog. Same thing can be said with Top Rank whoâs so terrible and ruined strong ties with ESPN. Boxing as a whole couldâve been in a better state but the promoters got greedy thinking they can get away with presenting sub par cards and wanting ridiculous purses for their fighters who nobody even cared about at the end of day.

                PBC stink
                Top Rank stink
                DAZB stink

                lets be real as boxing fans their greed killed the sport.

                Ok I agree with you. But deals ending terrible isn’t a reflection of the promoters, it’s a reflection of where boxing is in the sports landscape.

                When the networks left the sport, we as fans were fortunate that the cable networks picked up the sport.

                But even they changed when boxing was still popular. USA Tuesday night fights got replaced. FNF got replaced.

                Now there is soccer, cornhole, high school sports and other things that get stronger ratings on that never were in the past.

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                • bchap05
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                  #158
                  Could be good. Sometimes it takes being knocked down to finally make changes. They are probably still too ****** and greedy, but if they ever learn that making the best fight the best gets more buys and ratings. If whoever picks them up forces their hand in that for better ratings it would improve the sport. The one thing I never understood about boxing. Like they would rather have 200k viewers than a mill because they don't want to challenge themselves. One of only sports I can think of that purposely puts on a worse product half the time.

                  Hopefully the consolidate onto ESPN or Dazn. If boxing were under one banner with forced fights (not cherry picking) their wouldn't be a ratings or buy issue.
                  Last edited by bchap05; 10-18-2023, 10:04 AM.

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                  • Sheikh
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                    #159
                    What is truly sad is that I'm pretty sure that DAZN will be next. What happens then? They will basically be no more Outlets

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                    • SUBZER0ED
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by jqSide
                      At least when HBO closed shop, they have very few fighters relying on them. This time it's a large stable and it remains to be seen if it would still be business as usual like nothing happened.
                      Hell, most of those clowns were sitting on their hands anyway. They weren't fighting.

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