Comments Thread For: John Fury: If Joshua Wants To Fight Tyson - Let Him Defeat Wilder!

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  • Bob
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    #11
    I'm absolutely not a fan of senior but he's correct on this occasion, name 1 prime heavyweight Ajs beaten, they're all cans & old men of the former generation.

    Personally I think Aj should challenge Wallin for the ibf #2 spot to then possibly face Hrgovic for yet another paper belt.

    Eddie & Ajs entire career has been least risk most reward.

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    • Bob
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      #12
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Yes, I hope Josh can get the wilder fight, then ko wilder. I'm sure Tyson wants to avenge his sparring loss to josh though even if Josh loses to wilder
      Sparring loss, casual in da house.

      Fury turned up unfit after a skin full & Aj in camp had a good spar.

      It's nice to see there are still cellar dwellers left supporting Aj.

      Idrr

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      • thack
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        #13
        It's unfortunately hard to argue the case against John here. It's clear Joshua will be fighting another nobody next, whilst the big boys unify. Joshua has gone backwards since he was annihilated by Ruiz but showed he's become a decent boxer in his rematch with Usyk , which seems to have done more harm than good for him .Probably realising the boasts made before Usyk 1 about walking right through him fell completely flat against the small but skilled fighter.Fury v Joshua makes sense in England, but eventually Fury is going to hit him with what he's worth and he's not going like it , but as John says here , it's clear for all but the blind to see!

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        • deathofaclown
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          #14
          Originally posted by Bob
          I'm absolutely not a fan of senior but he's correct on this occasion, name 1 prime heavyweight Ajs beaten, they're all cans & old men of the former generation.

          Personally I think Aj should challenge Wallin for the ibf #2 spot to then possibly face Hrgovic for yet another paper belt.

          Eddie & Ajs entire career has been least risk most reward.
          i think AJ took plenty of decent fights, so I wouldn't accuse them of not looking to take risks in the past.

          But right now they're certainly avoiding any risks because they can't really afford any big slip ups anymore without a huge reward. He can't even sell out an indoor arena in the UK at the moment, so imagine he loses again?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bob

            Sparring loss, casual in da house.

            Fury turned up unfit after a skin full & Aj in camp had a good spar.

            It's nice to see there are still cellar dwellers left supporting Aj.

            Idrr
            The same people talking about how Whyte supposedly knocked Fury down in sparring, so Fury would duck him...

            Maybe he did knock him down in a gym, i have no idea, but only one of them ended up flat on their back in a real fight.

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #16
              I think Joshua does need to fight someone decent first. ZZ or Hrgovic. Wilder would be good, but as John Fury must know, Wilder hasn't been fighting anyone. Nor has Fury for that matter. The sum total of fights between Fury and Wilder this year is zero, so the idea of lining up both Wilder and Fury is a multi-year task, when we all know time is running out.

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                #17
                Fury has to fight AJ. That's his only big money fight besides Zhang and potentially Andy. Anyone else will provide weak paychecks compared to his real options.

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                • thack
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Monty Fisto
                  I think Joshua does need to fight someone decent first. ZZ or Hrgovic. Wilder would be good, but as John Fury must know, Wilder hasn't been fighting anyone. Nor has Fury for that matter. The sum total of fights between Fury and Wilder this year is zero, so the idea of lining up both Wilder and Fury is a multi-year task, when we all know time is running out.
                  He does need to fight some 'decent' agreed but he won't , he never does. Zhang's co promoter says that Hearn doesn't even want to discuss it ...no surprise there !

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                  • turnedup
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                    #19
                    AJ has the better resume of the two, actually really defended his belts and didn’t go on a mental health hiatus because they got caught cheating and went on a world level bender because they thought their career was over. I still stand by Tyson should’ve never been let back into the sport, fails test, tried to buy his redemption and goes on a vacation and the world forgets he sniffed his way to a mental breakdown.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bob

                      Sparring loss, casual in da house.

                      Fury turned up unfit after a skin full & Aj in camp had a good spar.

                      It's nice to see there are still cellar dwellers left supporting Aj.

                      Idrr
                      Yeh I was being a little,cheeky just a little incentive for fury to fight josh though. Plus fury does need to prove its not only Ruiz and usy k who can best josh.
                      We are owed the fight. It's a nice win for fury potentially

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