Is Arthur Abraham unproven on an elite level?

[catalinul]

I just think we should hold modern champions to the highest standards and compare them to the only thing we can which is fighters that came before them. So that is what I use. I consider Taylor elite in terms of skill and natural talent. I think the best version of him can give any MW who ever fought a problem, and he will be by far in my view AA most skilled and talented opponent.

That's the thing.

Abraham is not fighting the best JT(IMO).Most skilled and talented prolly but it won't matter IMO.

I don't really see Taylor beating any all time great MW.Not sure if he'd give'em trouble either.
He just hasn't fought in a strong era or the oppsoition to show me that.Or his level of performances.

[Spray_resistant]

That's the thing.

Abraham is not fighting the best JT(IMO).Most skilled and talented prolly but it won't matter IMO.

I don't really see Taylor beating any all time great MW.Not sure if he'd give'em trouble either.
He just hasn't fought in a strong era or the oppsoition to show me that.Or his level of performances.

Well, I guess that it is all subjective because they can never fight old timers but the tourney will be a proving ground for AA and a definitive marker for where JT is in his career.

[Spray_resistant]

Bumped due to AA showing me who's boss........sorry I doubted the power Arthur, it won't happen again.

[BadNewz]

Abraham ain't proved nothing. Taylor is shot, and even in his prime he was a waste of talent.

[Spray_resistant]

Abraham ain't proved nothing. Taylor is shot, and even in his prime he was a waste of talent.

Taylor actually did well and didn't gas he just got caught by AA's awesome power. Taylor won the first 5 in my view and AA came on and started landing more later making Taylor cautious of his power all while keeping a tight defense.

[Blue Heffner]

Taylor actually did well and didn't gas he just got caught by AA's awesome power. Taylor won the first 5 in my view and AA came on and started landing more later making Taylor cautious of his power all while keeping a tight defense.

Like the guy above said, he's shot. People were picking him because he's a good person and they want to see him win out of sympathy. Abraham is a bad boy but still unproven with the elite.

[Spray_resistant]

Like the guy above said, he's shot. People were picking him because he's a good person and they want to see him win out of sympathy. Abraham is a bad boy but still unproven with the elite.

He was picked for his skill and athletic ability which he could use to out point AA.....which he did for a while, no one would say he was shot if the fight went a few more seconds. He did well but got clipped by a big puncher. If he was not shot then he certainly is now.