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  • _Rexy_
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    #51
    Originally posted by garfios

    Morell jr is much better fight than charlo, and it is not a thing it is a fact, that he is mandatory for the WBA. Why, how it doesn't matter, the fact is he is there. I prefer the winner of benavidez vs andrade, but you can't negate that he is at the gate and doesn't care who he is facing, however, time will tell. Are you a policeman? Asking me to stop, just come out with a better argument that's how you stop some people of writing, although it would never happen with canelo's fanatics.
    Canelo doesn’t fight mandatories unless they’re Yildrim or Ryder. WBA won’t strip him.

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    • garfios
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      #52
      Originally posted by ramses07

      Honestly didn’t read your paragraph, you just seemed like an idiot.
      Who is the idiot now? You replied without reading, only an idiot would do that. Live and learn, boy.

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      • garfios
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        #53
        Originally posted by _Rexy_

        Canelo doesn’t fight mandatories unless they’re Yildrim or Ryder. WBA won’t strip him.
        Now that you mentioned it, you're 100% right. When was the last time he fought a real mandatory?

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          #54
          Originally posted by tomhawq
          Is the other twin Jermall still interested in getting the Canelo payday next?
          No, benavidez is.

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            #55
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            African American fighters seem to lack slickness within this era 'Jermell Charlo is a African American fighter, but his style is not based on fundamental slickness'.

            You can be a great boxer, like Usyk 'But Usyk still does not have that slickness which is associate with certain style of fighting, and it is difficult to identify technically why without in-depth analysis'.

            Alvarez has not come within contact with 'Slickness' since Floyd Mayweather Junior'.

            Terrence Crawford has shown evidence of having a level of slickness 'Andre Ward had a level of slickness'.

            I believe this is what people mean by how Alvarez has avoided African American fighters 'But I don't think he has avoided them, I just don't think the slickness has been as dominant as past era's'.

            But Terrence Crawford can be described, and does have that slickness 'It is the same slickness, Bernard Hopkins beat Kelly Pavlik with'.

            Bernard Hopkins survived in the latter stages of his career in part due to his slickness.

            The slickness is strong within Crawford, but I don't know how strong 'Strong enough to negate weight classes, and defy physics? Because sometimes that is what slickness appears to give a fighter the ability to do' Floyd Mayweather Junior had that level of slickness.

            Slickness is broad spectrum ability, and I believe it is a culture thing.

            Alvarez has only fought 1 African American fighter who had a extreme level of slickness 'Floyd Mayweather Junior'.

            Note: I have always regarded a match up against Bernard Hopkins, to be stylistically a terrible match up for Alvarez 'Hopkins could easily beat Alvarez 12-0 at Middle Weight or Light Heavyweight'.

            So overall I don't think Alvarez has avoided a certain group of fighters. I just personally don't see many slick elite level fighters, like we had in past era's of boxing etc.





            I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.

            I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.
            Last edited by _original_; 10-02-2023, 05:25 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by garfios

              Now that you mentioned it, you're 100% right. When was the last time he fought a real mandatory?
              He dropped the WBC when Golovkin was his mandatory. Nobody has called one since other than Yildrim and Ryder. I'm sure they asked him for permission first too.

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                #57
                Originally posted by _original_

                I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.

                I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.
                I had Plant ahead until the stoppage TBH. That style is kryptonite ot Canelo.


                Ward fought like a half black half white fighter

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by tomhawq
                  Is the other twin Jermall still interested in getting the Canelo payday next?
                  That fight would probably be even worse. Can’t remember the last time jermall fought and he clearly has some mental issues. Canelo needs to fight David next

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by _original_

                    I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.

                    I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.
                    Lara, Bivol, Plant non of those are slick fighters 'Slickness is specific to African American fighters'.

                    There is a video of Bernard Hopkins speaking about the 'Slickness' after his fight with Pavlik.

                    Bivol is fundamentally correct, good boxer, Lara Cuba boxer, Plant 'Gives it a go at being slick, but for me? The slickness is not strong enough within him'.

                    Crawford has a good level of slickness, but maybe not on the level of Floyd Mayweather Junior.

                    Note: Alvarez has not avoided slick African American fighters, for whatever reason? There are not many dominant slick African American fighters at Middle to Super Middle Weight'.

                    Even in boxing as a whole within this era, I don't see many Slick African American fighters 'The Charlo's are not slick fighters, Spence Junior, Tank Davis list goes on. None of them fundamentally have a strong level of Slickness'.

                    Yes 'Slickness' is most prominently associated with African American fighters, and then from there maybe Latino and Italian American 'But it is mostly a strength associated with African American fighters specifically' etc.

                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-03-2023, 08:31 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      I never said that Canelo hides from black fighters, but fighting one 14 pounds smaller than him doesn't prove anyones point
                      Yet a lot of you still want him to fight one 21 pounds smaller...

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