What happened to "Canelo needs to face bruthas"
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I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.African American fighters seem to lack slickness within this era 'Jermell Charlo is a African American fighter, but his style is not based on fundamental slickness'.
You can be a great boxer, like Usyk 'But Usyk still does not have that slickness which is associate with certain style of fighting, and it is difficult to identify technically why without in-depth analysis'.
Alvarez has not come within contact with 'Slickness' since Floyd Mayweather Junior'.
Terrence Crawford has shown evidence of having a level of slickness 'Andre Ward had a level of slickness'.
I believe this is what people mean by how Alvarez has avoided African American fighters 'But I don't think he has avoided them, I just don't think the slickness has been as dominant as past era's'.
But Terrence Crawford can be described, and does have that slickness 'It is the same slickness, Bernard Hopkins beat Kelly Pavlik with'.
Bernard Hopkins survived in the latter stages of his career in part due to his slickness.
The slickness is strong within Crawford, but I don't know how strong 'Strong enough to negate weight classes, and defy physics? Because sometimes that is what slickness appears to give a fighter the ability to do' Floyd Mayweather Junior had that level of slickness.
Slickness is broad spectrum ability, and I believe it is a culture thing.
Alvarez has only fought 1 African American fighter who had a extreme level of slickness 'Floyd Mayweather Junior'.
Note: I have always regarded a match up against Bernard Hopkins, to be stylistically a terrible match up for Alvarez 'Hopkins could easily beat Alvarez 12-0 at Middle Weight or Light Heavyweight'.
So overall I don't think Alvarez has avoided a certain group of fighters. I just personally don't see many slick elite level fighters, like we had in past era's of boxing etc.
I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.Last edited by _original_; 10-02-2023, 05:25 PM.Comment
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I had Plant ahead until the stoppage TBH. That style is kryptonite ot Canelo.
I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.
I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.
Ward fought like a half black half white fighter
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Lara, Bivol, Plant non of those are slick fighters 'Slickness is specific to African American fighters'.
I wouldn’t describe Andre Ward as a slick fighter though he definitely had some elements. He was very rough and cagey and fought very physical inside which are not elements of slick fighting when you think of guys like Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, ect.
I don’t agree that he avoided slicked fighters after May. Canelo faced Lara and Bivol after Floyd, hell even Plant has the slick style.
There is a video of Bernard Hopkins speaking about the 'Slickness' after his fight with Pavlik.
Bivol is fundamentally correct, good boxer, Lara Cuba boxer, Plant 'Gives it a go at being slick, but for me? The slickness is not strong enough within him'.
Crawford has a good level of slickness, but maybe not on the level of Floyd Mayweather Junior.
Note: Alvarez has not avoided slick African American fighters, for whatever reason? There are not many dominant slick African American fighters at Middle to Super Middle Weight'.
Even in boxing as a whole within this era, I don't see many Slick African American fighters 'The Charlo's are not slick fighters, Spence Junior, Tank Davis list goes on. None of them fundamentally have a strong level of Slickness'.
Yes 'Slickness' is most prominently associated with African American fighters, and then from there maybe Latino and Italian American 'But it is mostly a strength associated with African American fighters specifically' etc.
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