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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

    Nah, I can't say that he's better than Castano, Ramos, Lubin, Fundora, Danny Garcia, Spence, or Crawford. His skillset doesn't show that.
    To me & most ppl Tim is #2 in the division rn. If Mell is gone he's #1 by default. Idk about "skillset" arguments when half of these guys you bring up aren't fighting or in the division at all lol.

    I'd argue the Jesus vs Erickson winner has an argument for being #2 after Saturday & should be no worse than #3 under Tim in the division tho. The rest of these guys ain't really in play for other reasons tho.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

      Hope is eternal, but Tszyu is far, far away from the skillset of Crawford. PBC has nothing to do with his skills.
      U were on the Spence train b4 he got punished. PBC wouldn't let Bud get any of their top guys for years and years. As soon as they did, Porter and Errol got beat up. And now Charlo did a money grab but at the expense of Tszyu because he did not want it with him. Tszyu punished Tony Harrison, who slapped Charlo around. Harrison had plenty of skills and it didn't mean nothing. Tszyu still found a way to blast him out. Tszyu has a whole lot of skills, but u don't call them skills, because to ur eye, he looks ordinary. Tony Harrison said the same thing, b4 the fight he kept talking about his skills. Tszyu's skills are discipline, tremendous conditioning (he even conditions his hands), focus, calm under fire, timing, accuracy, killer instinct, determination, and many other things. And its not that noticeable until ur in the ring with him. On top of that, when he hits you, it's a wrap
      Last edited by archiemoore1; 09-29-2023, 11:06 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

        Its not laughable when the different direction he chose is to fight Cinnabon, the face of boxing.
        Nobody has denied it was the best move for Charlo. The question is whether Charlo, who is not the face of boxing, should be able to keep his belt after skipping out on his mandatory. He didn't even try to get a second exemption. He knew it was a possibility to lose his belt.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post

          U were on the Spence train b4 he got punished. PBC wouldn't let Bud get any of their top guys for years and years. As soon as they did, Porter and Errol got beat up. And now Charlo did a money grab but at the expense of Tszyu because he did not want it with him. Tszyu punished Tony Harrison, who slapped Charlo around. Harrison had plenty of skills and it didn't mean nothing. Tszyu still found a way to blast him out. Tszyu has a whole lot of skills, but u don't call them skills, because to ur eye, he looks ordinary. Tony Harrison said the same thing, b4 the fight he kept talking about his skills. Tszyu's skills are discipline, tremendous conditioning (he even conditions his hands), focus, calm under fire, timing, accuracy, killer instinct, determination, and many other things. And its not that noticeable until ur in the ring with him. On top of that, when he hits you, it's a wrap
          That's just ******. Charlo has never ducked anyone and he's taking on a bigger, more dangerous, and much better fighter. FOH with that dumb bullsh$t.

          You comparing the Harrison that fought Charlo to the one that fought Tszyu further shows your ignorance, ******ity and bias.
          Last edited by joseph5620; 09-29-2023, 12:57 PM.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post

            U were on the Spence train b4 he got punished. PBC wouldn't let Bud get any of their top guys for years and years. As soon as they did, Porter and Errol got beat up. And now Charlo did a money grab but at the expense of Tszyu because he did not want it with him. Tszyu punished Tony Harrison, who slapped Charlo around. Harrison had plenty of skills and it didn't mean nothing. Tszyu still found a way to blast him out. Tszyu has a whole lot of skills, but u don't call them skills, because to ur eye, he looks ordinary. Tony Harrison said the same thing, b4 the fight he kept talking about his skills. Tszyu's skills are discipline, tremendous conditioning (he even conditions his hands), focus, calm under fire, timing, accuracy, killer instinct, determination, and many other things. And its not that noticeable until ur in the ring with him. On top of that, when he hits you, it's a wrap
            Lol, make yourself believe that bullshxt!! So, Crawford beat Spence and Porter, means Timmy will automatically beat Charlo. You must have got that type of logic off a dive bar bathroom wall. There's plenty of fighters in the division that would probably put the beats on Tszyu, starting with Castano, Lubin, Fundora, Ramos, Conwell, and Danny Garcia. Hell, Mendoza is probably going to make him see the back his eyelids on the 14th, and then we can stop with the hype and souping up a regular, good fighter.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

              To me & most ppl Tim is #2 in the division rn. If Mell is gone he's #1 by default. Idk about "skillset" arguments when half of these guys you bring up aren't fighting or in the division at all lol.

              I'd argue the Jesus vs Erickson winner has an argument for being #2 after Saturday & should be no worse than #3 under Tim in the division tho. The rest of these guys ain't really in play for other reasons tho.
              I was about to give you reasoning of why at least 3 of those guys should be ranked above Timmy, but no need; Mendoza is going to solve all of this over hype of a regular good fighter with average skills, and defensive flaws, when he shuts off his lights on the 14th.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Cool story View Post

                We can’t say charlo better than Tim for sure either since they still haven’t fought
                Tim hasn't fought any of those guys that I named either, Charlo cleaned out the division on his way to becoming undisputed. There's a HUGE difference.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Cool story View Post

                  After canelo beats him sure people probably will know who charlo is now
                  He should beat him, but...... And I don't want to hear your excuses after.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                    I was about to give you reasoning of why at least 3 of those guys should be ranked above Timmy, but no need; Mendoza is going to solve all of this over hype of a regular good fighter with average skills, and defensive flaws, when he shuts off his lights on the 14th.
                    Which 3 lol. Of the 7 guys you mentioned, 2 ain't even fought at 154 & 2 are inactive. I don't think I'd rate Jesus, Erickson & Sebastian all over Tim. I dig Jesus, but if you got problems with what Tim has done you should have problems with what Jesus has done.

                    Mendoza doesn't suck & he can win obv, but he was losing every rd to Sebastian before he stopped him & I think Tim gots a lot higher boxing IQ than Sebastian. It's probably like a 70/30 Tim fight. For sure Mendoza's only shot is a KO. He won't outbox Tim.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                      Which 3 lol. Of the 7 guys you mentioned, 2 ain't even fought at 154 & 2 are inactive. I don't think I'd rate Jesus, Erickson & Sebastian all over Tim. I dig Jesus, but if you got problems with what Tim has done you should have problems with what Jesus has done.

                      Mendoza doesn't suck & he can win obv, but he was losing every rd to Sebastian before he stopped him & I think Tim gots a lot higher boxing IQ than Sebastian. It's probably like a 70/30 Tim fight. For sure Mendoza's only shot is a KO. He won't outbox Tim.
                      Lol, I will tell you after Timmy receives his dose of sleep aid from Mendoza, but just know that their resumes and skills outshine Tszyu's , and his accolade of beating one fighter of note, who happened to be shot to pieces, his entire career.

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