Comments Thread For: Gervonta Davis Closes The Curtain On His 2023, Looks To Make Early Return Next Year

[Eff Pandas]

Aside from Ryan can you name any other fighter that is a product of social media?

I wouldn't say they are a product of SM so much as they are using to enhance their popularity.

Devin helped his status with SM. Moton already got David B level popularity on SM with 1 pro fight so he's moving in the right direction. Shakur getting a lot of attn from SM. Jake Paul has a boxing career at all cuz of SM. And that is one thing Floyd was a leader on bringing up Floyd. Floyd is killing it on SM & has been for yrs now. Most of the guys getting or getting talked about for PPV fights are doing well on SM. Fury, Tyson AND Tommy (which is why he's getting all these novelty fights). Tank. Deontay.

And in the opposite way the guys with smaller SM followers, despite skills, aren't getting as many big fights if you do some research. I have zero doubt that if Boots had 5M followers on SM rn I wouldn't be talking about him getting an opportunity vs a big name like I am every other week for a year or so now. He'd be doing PPV's already & be the guy or "exposed" as many like to say when I guy loses a fight these days.

You can't just fight 3-4x a year anymore. You gotta engage with fans on SM to keep them loyal to you & growing your brand. Its different now than it was back a 15-25yrs ago.

[MONGOOSE66]

I hear he’s going to fight Rico Suave for the WBO Pea**** belt in February.
Should be a great fight and a big risk for tank. LOL

[Boxfan83]

Is he still on house arrest? That maybe the issue.

[Kannabis Kid]

I wouldn't say they are a product of SM so much as they are using to enhance their popularity.

Devin helped his status with SM. Moton already got David B level popularity on SM with 1 pro fight so he's moving in the right direction. Shakur getting a lot of attn from SM. Jake Paul has a boxing career at all cuz of SM. And that is one thing Floyd was a leader on bringing up Floyd. Floyd is killing it on SM & has been for yrs now. Most of the guys getting or getting talked about for PPV fights are doing well on SM. Fury, Tyson AND Tommy (which is why he's getting all these novelty fights). Tank. Deontay.

And in the opposite way the guys with smaller SM followers, despite skills, aren't getting as many big fights if you do some research. I have zero doubt that if Boots had 5M followers on SM rn I wouldn't be talking about him getting an opportunity vs a big name like I am every other week for a year or so now. He'd be doing PPV's already & be the guy or "exposed" as many like to say when I guy loses a fight these days.

You can't just fight 3-4x a year anymore. You gotta engage with fans on SM to keep them loyal to you & growing your brand. Its different now than it was back a 15-25yrs ago.

Devin has status? Haha let's see the numbers against Prograis.

Moton? Who's that? You talking about that little guy from Floyds gym that hasn't even proven himself at the pro level yet? Shakur has the most attention out of all those you mentioned but that's because of his skills and his desire to actually fight the best, he would also be more active if people actually wanted to fight him. Jake Paul is not a boxer he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation he was a social media star first.

Boots doesn't need to be a social media star he worked his way up like everyone should and he's closing in on his title shot soon. If he beats a star he will become a star that's how it always goes.

I agree social media helps with popularity these days, but that doesn't mean that if a fighter has popularity on social media he can skip over the ones who have actually put in work. Good thing is all these guys wasting their careers will fall off eventually and the strict pros will keep building their actual boxing career the right way. Nothing beats experience and without fighting on the regular someone who actually stays active and puts in the hard work will take over when the time comes.

[Eff Pandas]

Devin has status? Haha let's see the numbers against Prograis.

Moton? Who's that? You talking about that little guy from Floyds gym that hasn't even proven himself at the pro level yet? Shakur has the most attention out of all those you mentioned but that's because of his skills and his desire to actually fight the best, he would also be more active if people actually wanted to fight him. Jake Paul is not a boxer he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation he was a social media star first.

Boots doesn't need to be a social media star he worked his way up like everyone should and he's closing in on his title shot soon. If he beats a star he will become a star that's how it always goes.

I agree social media helps with popularity these days, but that doesn't mean that if a fighter has popularity on social media he can skip over the ones who have actually put in work. Good thing is all these guys wasting their careers will fall off eventually and the strict pros will keep building their actual boxing career the right way. Nothing beats experience and without fighting on the regular someone who actually stays active and puts in the hard work will take over when the time comes.

Tbf I'm not saying its an apples to apples comparison all day & night, but if you look at the PPV guys, the guys with some hype & the guys with no hype the SM numbers line up right along with their level in the business of boxing game MOST of the time regardless of skill level. Again Jake Paul is like a level 3/10 at best boxer & cuz he has 25M followers he's generated $150M in PPV revenue. Followers equal $$$.

And sheeeet I'm more of a Boot fan than most ppl these days, but he's not THAT BIG on SM & thats hurting him getting big fights as much if not more than his talent rn. If there was money to fight Boots mfers would't gaf if they were about to get KTFO. But he's not THAT BIG so mfers ain't gonna fight him cuz mfers know they are likely gonna get lit up AND they aren't getting a super sexy check.

Also mark my words based on how popular Moten is already as a 1-0 guy who's done nothing in the pro ring yet that his odds of becoming a money guy in boxing is locked in if he's half as good as he's hyped as being. Thats cuz followers equal $$$.

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe he should’ve released video of himself crying after his last fight so posters would be ok with him not fighting the rest of the year like they were with Loma.

That or he should accidentally’ eat tainted meat to get himself suspended for 6 months.

[Elheath]

Well, given his current "popularity" at 1-0 17 years old, Mayweather is going to feed Moton a bunch of journeymen scraps for the next 8 years until he is like 20-0 with 18 KO for the money, and wait for Inoue/Venado/Robeisy to be around 38 years old and moved up/retired/vacated the belts before swooping in for a hopeful lucky vacant win then claim how everyone was dodging him or some joke.

By the way this kid is like 5'1" according to his profile and he's already at featherweight, atleast in terms of multi-division unless he somehow goes DOWN in weight he's not going to be much of a multi-division champion, if any.

[Kannabis Kid]

Tbf I'm not saying its an apples to apples comparison all day & night, but if you look at the PPV guys, the guys with some hype & the guys with no hype the SM numbers line up right along with their level in the business of boxing game MOST of the time regardless of skill level. Again Jake Paul is like a level 3/10 at best boxer & cuz he has 25M followers he's generated $150M in PPV revenue. Followers equal $$$.

And sheeeet I'm more of a Boot fan than most ppl these days, but he's not THAT BIG on SM & thats hurting him getting big fights as much if not more than his talent rn. If there was money to fight Boots mfers would't gaf if they were about to get KTFO. But he's not THAT BIG so mfers ain't gonna fight him cuz mfers know they are likely gonna get lit up AND they aren't getting a super sexy check.

Also mark my words based on how popular Moten is already as a 1-0 guy who's done nothing in the pro ring yet that his odds of becoming a money guy in boxing is locked in if he's half as good as he's hyped as being. Thats cuz followers equal $$$.

I get what you're saying man I just don't think half those guys are huge social media stars anyways and they still are getting good money based on their skills.

I don't think it's the fighters either the majority of them want to stay active it seems like after COVID people just started fighting less frequently and it's like some trainers have said, fighters are spoiled they have a name and try to milk it but half won't fight a challenge anymore they are too scared of losing their 0's.

As far as Moton I'm not sure how big he is because I barely heard about him a few months back and actually knew he was a hyped fighter coming out of the Mayweather camp. I remember seeing him in videos at the Mayweather gym in the past but he didn't look like anything crazy so I never really paid it interest. He might have a good career he has a good surrounding but I remember hearing a lot more about Haney back then before he was pro and his popularity is still about the same I would think.

[Eff Pandas]

I get what you're saying man I just don't think half those guys are huge social media stars anyways and they still are getting good money based on their skills.

I don't think it's the fighters either the majority of them want to stay active it seems like after COVID people just started fighting less frequently and it's like some trainers have said, fighters are spoiled they have a name and try to milk it but half won't fight a challenge anymore they are too scared of losing their 0's.

As far as Moton I'm not sure how big he is because I barely heard about him a few months back and actually knew he was a hyped fighter coming out of the Mayweather camp. I remember seeing him in videos at the Mayweather gym in the past but he didn't look like anything crazy so I never really paid it interest. He might have a good career he has a good surrounding but I remember hearing a lot more about Haney back then before he was pro and his popularity is still about the same I would think.

I didn't say they were "huge SM stars". I'm saying followers are proof of concept ppl are interested in you as an athlete/entertainer &/or are into you as a person &/or some % of those ppl will give away their money on your behalf.

In boxing this means you can put those guys on PPV's & expect a certain number of buys. If you put 2 guys with 3M followers each on PPV who are 3 outta 10 in boxing skills & a put 2 guys with 100k followers each on PPV who are 8 outta 10 in boxing skills I'd put money all day that the 3M guys are bringing in more money than the 100k guys despite being less talented fighters. Thats what I'm saying & thats why those guys are smarter than the guys not hustling harder on SM & make more money in general.

I think fans gaf more about 0's than boxers. If boxers gaf half as much as fans its cuz they know it can hurt their interest/money when boxing is FILLED with so many fairweather fans who'll call you a bum after you get an L.

For a guy who has no Olympic medal & isn't a famous person going into pro boxing I think Moten is the most known 1-0 guy in the history of pro boxing. I certainly can't think of anyone who's gotten as many ppl talking about him THIS soon into his career who didn't do anything crazy in amateur boxing or in life before boxing. Haney for sure wasn't this popular at 1-0. Haney was doing a lot of YT sh^t early on tho that had him a solid amount of attention, but not a lot of ppl were talking about him like they are Moten. Moten has some casual fans talking about him he's got so many SM followers already.