JMM sold his soul to the Devil.

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  • DLT
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    also, how did he sell his soul? Pac didnt want a rematch and Pac could easily lose to Cotto or whoever anyways. JMM made more in this fight then he did in his whole career combined and no one is even ripping him for the loss because it was to the bigger Mayweather. Basicaly I think he was in a win win situation. On top of that he can get big money big fame fights with other guys like Hatton, Khan, Bradley, and whoever

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    • arraamis
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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT
      also, how did he sell his soul? Pac didnt want a rematch and Pac could easily lose to Cotto or whoever anyways. JMM made more in this fight then he did in his whole career combined and no one is even ripping him for the loss because it was to the bigger Mayweather. Basicaly I think he was in a win win situation. On top of that he can get big money big fame fights with other guys like Hatton, Khan, Bradley, and whoever
      Good Point .... very few gained soo much in a lost. JMM is now in a position to face Hatton {Another 5+ Million} and other top LWW's based on the outrageous move of facing Mayweather.

      It might even turn his career around and give him a shot at becoming Mexico's ATG.

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      • EL_cano
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        #13
        i agree with most of the replies, but as Marquez stated himelf "I wont be the best until i beat Pacquiao" Good looking out but his chances of being P 4 P #1 is off the chain. As the saying goes "Money does not bring happiness" u know at i mean.

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        • Deeznuts
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          #14
          Originally posted by _original_
          It's not completely demolished because it's not set in stone that Pac will beat Cotto and become a true welter to take on Mosley or Floyd.....for all we know, Pac would very well get schooled by Cotto and end up staying at 140....then of coarse a JMM-Pac trilogy will be complete, we'll have to wait and see
          Exactly what i was thinking

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            #15
            Originally posted by DLT
            Lets be real, the fight wouldnt have been any different at 143 or any other weight for that matter. Floyd's weight wasnt the reason why JMM lost so I dont know why so many keep talking about that. He lost because of Floyd's speed, defense, height, reach, smarts, and overall skill. None of those things would change at any weight. Infact as Ive said on here many times before, it would probably have been worse at the lower weight because Floyd was even more faster and more aggressive at those weights
            You're such a moron.

            You only focus on Floyds attributes. JMM was MUCH faster and damn near unbeatable at the lower weights.

            The reason Floyd got a boring decision was purely size. He can't beat a version of JMM thats his size.

            Hell he could barely hurt a blown up version.

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              #16
              Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
              You're such a moron.

              You only focus on Floyds attributes. JMM was MUCH faster and damn near unbeatable at the lower weights.

              The reason Floyd got a boring decision was purely size. He can't beat a version of JMM thats his size.

              Hell he could barely hurt a blown up version.
              you respond with that and call me the moron? Seriously, you are so clueless. Are you really going to try to tell me that JMM is better than Floyd at the lower weights or is P4P a better fighter? He doesnt do one single thing better at any weight. Its like Margarito vs Mosley. Mosley is the worst matchup in the world for Margarito and Floyd is the worst for JMM. Anyone could see that even before the fight. JMM is a beast because he is one of 2nd smartest fighter in the sport, he is the 2nd best techniqal guy in the sport, he is the 2nd best counter puncher in the sport, and so on. The problem is that Floyd is the guy who JMM is behind in all those catagories and the D isnt even close. Dont be a homer to the point where you just cant beleive JMM could lose or that you just think Floyd sucks no matter what. Floyd is a better fighter than JMM in every way, point blank

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                #17
                Originally posted by DLT
                you respond with that and call me the moron? Seriously, you are so clueless. Are you really going to try to tell me that JMM is better than Floyd at the lower weights or is P4P a better fighter? He doesnt do one single thing better at any weight. Its like Margarito vs Mosley. Mosley is the worst matchup in the world for Margarito and Floyd is the worst for JMM. Anyone could see that even before the fight. JMM is a beast because he is one of 2nd smartest fighter in the sport, he is the 2nd best techniqal guy in the sport, he is the 2nd best counter puncher in the sport, and so on. The problem is that Floyd is the guy who JMM is behind in all those catagories and the D isnt even close. Dont be a homer to the point where you just cant beleive JMM could lose or that you just think Floyd sucks no matter what. Floyd is a better fighter than JMM in every way, point blank
                Yep, and I don't need 500 words to do it.

                JMM is p4p better than Floyd. Floyd only wins by overly defending and avoiding exchanges.

                JMM can do both box and brawl.

                If JMM was 5'10, had his speed and was a natural WW, like Floyd is, he would've knocked Floyd out.

                The only reason Floyd won that fight is size. Everyone outside of his nuthuggers knows that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
                  Yep, and I don't need 500 words to do it.

                  JMM is p4p better than Floyd. Floyd only wins by overly defending and avoiding exchanges.

                  JMM can do both box and brawl.

                  If JMM was 5'10, had his speed and was a natural WW, like Floyd is, he would've knocked Floyd out.

                  The only reason Floyd won that fight is size. Everyone outside of his nuthuggers knows that.
                  Stop talking ******. You act like Floyd came from WW. He came from 1 division higher than JMM and has been better than him at every division. Floyd cant do both? Again, have you only see him recently? At the lower weights he walked a ton of guys down and was offensive in alot of fights. He's the best in fighter in the game and is a beast in the pocket. He's the only boxer out there that can throw every punch in the book. You must be a newbie or something. Also, height has nothing to do with P4P. If JMM was 5'10? What kind of dumb thing is that to say? Floyd is only 5'8 and Floyd beat a 5'11 Oscar

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    also, how did he sell his soul? Pac didnt want a rematch and Pac could easily lose to Cotto or whoever anyways. JMM made more in this fight then he did in his whole career combined and no one is even ripping him for the loss because it was to the bigger Mayweather. Basicaly I think he was in a win win situation. On top of that he can get big money big fame fights with other guys like Hatton, Khan, Bradley, and whoever
                    I am talking about JMM signing the contract againts fighting FMJ at his comfort weight. Its remarkable how much guts JMM has to fight outside his comfort zone due to $ and fame and glory thats if he can beat the former p4p king. Had JMM not call out Mayweather after defeating Diaz, he should have crawled into fighting at 140 and beat a title holder in Timothy Bradley.

                    If JMM was successful at 140, in no doubt his dream would come true in fighting the current p4p king in which he can have a glorious victory and become p4p champ number 1 in the world himself.

                    I may be taking a gamble on what would have happened but it ruined both JMM and FMJ carreer. Some say there is no props for FMJ for shutting out a lightweight in Marquez and making him move up 2 weight divisions and also some say including himself say he wont be the best until i beat Pac. jmo.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Duce84
                      Do you believe the trilogy between Pac and JMM has been diminished?

                      Pac has only 2 or 3 fights left

                      Cotto
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                      FMJ

                      I know their was too much money involved in the JMM vs FMJ fight but JMM should have demanded 2 Million rather than accepting the $600,000 FMJ gave him during the weight issues.

                      Marquez "FMJ was at least 20 pounds more than me on fight night"

                      I know money talks but how about your legacy? So whats next for Marquez?
                      unless pac gets stomped by cotto, jmm will never get his rematch.

                      i agree jmm ****ed up by accepting 600,000... he should've played hardball and got $2 mill.

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