JMM sold his soul to the Devil.

[arraamis]

Yeah, Floyd was in lower divisions in his early 20's.

JMM moved up 2 divisions in less than a year at 36.

Truth is Floyd is a natural WW, JMM is a natural FW.

DEal with it. Size was the only difference.

When Floyd decides to move up to 68' and doesn't get demolished, get back to me.

I don't believe in name-calling the guys here .... but on that statement VictoriaBeckham - is totally off.

Skill and Skillset, along with ability, defence and movement were all in Floyds favor. This fight could have happened at 140lbs and JMM would still have looked out of his depth. And JMM was at 148lbs for the fight. {According to HBO}

[kING T]

as what nacho said..

""We took the fight because the offer was real good and the fact that the fight was going to be at 143 pounds. But the day of the weighin, Mayweather came at 146 and we were really angry at that but then again I am not the promoter so we talked with Juan Manuel and we decided that we would fight because the public was paying to see the fight and even when Mayweather was not responsible enough, I have to say he is one of the best fighters ever, he has tremendous speed and he has a great defense, he is very confident in the ring and he is really good and smart, but Juan fought with courage, with heart, and refused to go down against the best fighter pound for pound in the world."

Mayweather trick them. But as a warrior Juanma still face a much bigger floyd because the people were paying to see the fight. Thats why i still got a lot of respect for Juanma. If ever the situation happens to floyd i doubt the fight could have happen.. For sure Floyd will state lots of reason why he won't fight the boxer that didn't reach the agreed weight limit. And then points all the blame on the other boxer...

Get off this ****** weight crap! Any fight over 140 is a welterweight fight!

Even if Floyd was 140 and JMM was 147, the result would stay the same!

[screwhead1]

I bet that pac was heavier going into the de la hoya fight than Floyd was going into the jmm fight...Floyd has never blown up after the weigh in...I wouldn't be surprised if he came in at the exact same weight or within 2 pounds of it max...

But when all is said and done...Floyd slaughtered JMM off of straight skill...nevermind weight...Floyd controlled the fight with a jab that JMM probably assumed he'd never throw...and Floyd literally threw every punch in the boxing book successfully...all with still holding back...skill...speed...conditioning...and poise all day...

[EL_cano]

see, you guys keep talking about 2 or 3 different things. No one is saying that you have to respect him or give him major props. Thats everyone's opininon but the thing we are debating is if JMM wouldve beaten Floyd if he did come in lower or at the lower weights or is he P4P better. JMM isnt. Come on, this guy gets hit easy all the time even against bums. You are talking about him fighting against a guy who is super fast and deadly accurate. Its not a good matchup for him at any weight. Its just not. Sure JMM is a better fighter at LW or 130 but think about Floyd back then. He's way way way way way faster than JMM. Thats the diffference. JMM is also a righty and theyre aint no righty that is going to hit him clean while he's in his prime. He has mastered the D. Thats why I always say that there are only 2 ways to beat Floyd. You have to be so much bigger & stronger than him to the point where he cant do anything but run & pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw and just catch him with something

My senses tell me you are speaking from your heart on behalf of FMJ. He is indeed someone with great skillls. I can agree with your oppinion because FMJ has talent. I hope he uses his talent the best way he can possible to catch the eyes of many people who are boxing fans.

[inferno]

Did any of the Floyd haters even watch the fight? His size was the difference in the fight? Floyd didn't lean on him in the clench or push him around the ring. He used his superior hand speed and footwork to land cleanly and avoid everything that JMM threw at him. That has nothing to do with the two pounds that Floyd had. And again, I have to point out, the fight was contracted at 147 pounds with a stipulation that there would be a penalty for weighing more than 144lbs. If Marquez would have been over 144 lbs and Mayweather would have made it, HE would have had to pay Mayweather based on the stipulation in the contract.

[MakeDamnSure]

Floyd fans are idiots. If size is not the difference, why not make the 144 limit to end that issue? Why not scale on the weigh in on fight night?

[DLT]

Floyd fans are idiots. If size is not the difference, why not make the 144 limit to end that issue? Why not scale on the weigh in on fight night?

look, Im a Floyd fan but Im not a homer. I dont think Floyd ever had any intenion on making 144 and that wasnt right by him. He played a power move and got away with it but my point is that JMM wasnt going to beat him anyways. I mean, I would give people something on this argument if JMM won 5 rounds. I would give you something if he won 3. I may even give you something if he won 1 round but he didnt. He got totally shut out. I may give you something if JMM could hit him at all in 12 rounds but he didnt. Its not like this fight was close or even a fight. It was a total mismatch in every way and that was without Floyd bullying him. Its not like Floyd just came straight to him, held him on the ropes all night, and just physicaly imposed his will. No, it was a straight boxing match between 2 pure guys and Floyd shut him out easily.

You can debate if JMM looked the same, or if Floyd cheated with the 2 pounds, or whatever. All that may make the fight somewhat closer at a smaller weight but Floyd still wins comfortably at the least and I think he still kills him if not even moreso

[Syf]

yeah..i think this fight was all wrong for JMM...

He's not the type that goes into a fight expecting to lose... so... He expected to win, or at least have a shot. His corner, team, and him, were all very unrealistic going into this.

Unless he was just making a grab for the cash. Possible, I guess, but not how I view JMM. But the man does have a family to support.

[inferno]

The fight was contracted at 147 with a penalty for weighing over 144. Also, unofficial weights on fight night aren't important, and don't really show much except in the case of DLH, which showed that he was extremely dehydrated from trying to make that cut and didn't recover all the way from dropping to a weight he hadn't fought at in 10 years.

[chinoy]

Yup, that was bad decision from Team Marquez overall. The guy took a gamble and failed. I don't know why he wasn't able to wait for Pac if his ultimate intentions was to finished some unfinished business with him. Now his chances seem to fade into limbo unless Pac loses to Cotto. Wish him well though fighting at 140.

Team Marquez knew they would lose.....they only did it for the money