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    #111
    Originally posted by garfios

    In hindsight, yes. But everybody is right after the facts. We know he didn't took the fight because it was a 50/50, hommie don't play that. Why he didn't pay the guy and fought him again? Why he didn't exercise his rematch clause? The guy is a good fighter that goldenboy made him a star. Good looks, Mexican, good fighter with granite chin, never elite, the matchmaking made him what he is today. Every time he has stepped up, he has lose and the judging has save him.
    So in hindsight then. What we can say is that Canelo has fought challenging opponents many times in his career.

    He was going to fight Bivol again and tried to. But for some reason Bivol preferred to be difficult in the negotiations, kill the rematch, and sit on the sidelines not fighting.

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      #112
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Nelo couldve been a challenge to floyd, but floyd don't like challenges, that's why the CW. GGG was too much of a challenge even though everyone said he was overated. So Floyd really had a narrow choice of opponents to fight.
      Floyd beat a prime Canelo. History will always show that.

      And the more that Canelo’s star shines the better that win looks on Floyd’s resume.

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        #113
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        So in hindsight then. What we can say is that Canelo has fought challenging opponents many times in his career.

        He was going to fight Bivol again and tried to. But for some reason Bivol preferred to be difficult in the negotiations, kill the rematch, and sit on the sidelines not fighting.
        First, if you thought you were fighting a pigeon, and the night of the fight you got a hawk, the joke is on you. The Russian didn't kill the the rematch, in hindsight, canelo didn't want the rematch, first he didn't pick up the option right after the fight, then bivol offered to come down to 168, understandable ginger didn't agree, but wanted to pay him the same amount, same crap stipulations that the first fight. How can you offer the same money when you lost the first fight so thoroughly, the guy was entitled to some concessions, not everyone is a hooker. He wanted to buy a crusier belt, and offered Jack some crazy stipulations, the guy has no shame. Yes he has fought some stiff competition, and has come out with some gifts . I can't follow or like an athlete like that, convicted peds user, putting all his opponents, with the exception of fraud and I think Lara, at a disadvantage bringing smallest guy to his weight, fighting a ww for the jmw belt, and missing the weight. The guy is a disgrace. And that's exactly what DLH wants to do with munguia, same blueprint.
        Last edited by garfios; 09-21-2023, 08:33 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          Floyd beat a prime Canelo. History will always show that.

          And the more that Canelo’s star shines the better that win looks on Floyd’s resume.
          Just because Nel o is one of few fighters whose had a long and good career after losing to floyd, the better the win looks, or maybe the worse the version of Nell floyd fought was? Floyd didn't fight prime nelo. Floyd fought a kid, so off course Nelos best wins would be ahead of him, because Nell certainly didnt have too good wins before fighting floyd. But be honest, you didn't think Nell would do so good in future, he lacked in the floyd figh
          Does Floyd's wins over ssm, dl h, hatton, guerrero etc look worse now for floyd as they did nothing after losing to floyd, if they were pfps before fighting floyd, they certainly dropped fast afterwards
          Last edited by hugh grant; 09-22-2023, 03:39 AM.

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            #115
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            Just because Nel o is one of few fighters whose had a long and good career after losing to floyd, the better the win looks, or maybe the worse the version of Nell floyd fought was? Floyd didn't fight prime nelo. Floyd fought a kid, so off course Nelos best wins would be ahead of him, because Nell certainly didnt have too good wins before fighting floyd. But be honest, you didn't think Nell would do so good in future, he lacked in the floyd figh
            Does Floyd's wins over ssm, dl h, hatton, guerrero etc look worse now for floyd as they did nothing after losing to floyd, if they were pfps before fighting floyd, they certainly dropped fast afterwards
            Floyd’s win over those guys and Pacquiao plus the victory over Canelo just keeps enhancing his legacy in hindsight.

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              #116
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              Floyd’s win over those guys and Pacquiao plus the victory over Canelo just keeps enhancing his legacy in hindsight.
              Just like cotto beating Sergio enhanced pac s legacy? But floyd fighting weakest version of Nell isn't going to enhance Floyd's legacy. Nelo winning enhances Nelos legacy. Pac beating thurman enhanced Pac s legacy, not floyds

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                #117
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                Just like cotto beating Sergio enhanced pac s legacy? But floyd fighting weakest version of Nell isn't going to enhance Floyd's legacy. Nelo winning enhances Nelos legacy. Pac beating thurman enhanced Pac s legacy, not floyds
                Pacquiao had a chance to fight Canelo too, a fight Canelo wanted. But Pacquiao chose to duck instead.

                That hurts Pac’s legacy but it’s his own fault.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Pacquiao had a chance to fight Canelo too, a fight Canelo wanted. But Pacquiao chose to duck instead.

                  That hurts Pac’s legacy but it’s his own fault.
                  Pac s embarrassed floyd enough as regard common opponents, and had 20 more fights than floyd. Floyd had chance to fight thurman and bradley too, a fight they wanted. But floyd chose to duck instead. Floyd ducked spence, brook and Bud too. That hurts Floyd's legacy but it's his own fault.

                  But I think you know Nell was a little too big for pac. Floyd's not even got a legit win over nelo.
                  Could pac drain Nell to 150, and it still be considered a great win over a Prime nelo?
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 09-22-2023, 03:54 PM.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by tonyrespectful

                    and if you're honest you'll admit you wouldn't give canelo credit if he beat bivol at 168.and you know it.and that is why canelo insisted the fight be at 175.bivol refused and now is inactive. Canelo continues making 100 million.and you'll continue hating. Predictable and pitiful.
                    lmao! Just stop.
                    Last edited by willieb24; 09-23-2023, 12:54 AM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      Pac s embarrassed floyd enough as regard common opponents, and had 20 more fights than floyd. Floyd had chance to fight thurman and bradley too, a fight they wanted. But floyd chose to duck instead. Floyd ducked spence, brook and Bud too. That hurts Floyd's legacy but it's his own fault.

                      But I think you know Nell was a little too big for pac. Floyd's not even got a legit win over nelo.
                      Could pac drain Nell to 150, and it still be considered a great win over a Prime nelo?
                      Pac weight drained Cotto. Why couldn’t he fight a weight drained Canelo too?

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