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  • #91
    Originally posted by garfios View Post

    ? Pacquio and ginger got outclassed, end of the story, move on. Look what canelo is doing, all the advantages, rehydration clause, size of the ring, bringing fighters up two weight division, trying to fight an old man 20 pounds lower than his division. Do you think thats okay?
    Not really end of story as many think prime Nelo beats any version of floyd as does prime pac. Nel o unified 168 with no advantages and he didnt use cw with bivol so why try divert attention from floyd?
    Floyd fans make out the win over Nell so good that nothing Nell can do to equal that? So give Nell rematch then if nothing Nell can do. If you dont give rematch the win for Floyd is worth very little.
    Floyd didn't need to rematch nelo. Only when Floyd fans overrated the win then rematch became needed.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-18-2023, 03:17 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      Your responding whilst going off on a tangent and not addressing my points.
      Its not just if a fight is close you rematch. Nel o don't need to rematch Lara as Nell isn't worried Lara will be deemed greater if he doesn't have a totally convincing win over lara.

      Whereas Floyd's win over Nell isn't in the big scheme of going to mean much if people think Nell was more off his best than floyd was, with CW and people thinking prime Nell beats floyd. Floyd used controversial IV, pac had bad shoulder not to mention there are many who think pac best floyd.
      Floyd would've got rematch if he lost.

      Many think Nell and pac are greater than floyd as they don't put much in Floyd's win over them. All histories greats have 2 or 3 wins n some cases over biggest rivals why can't floyd? If SRR can beat lamotta 4 times, and pac can best bradley and jmm 3 times if not robbery or scorecard errors why can't floyd? I mean it's not as if Floyd's fighting abroad, or fighting toughest available opponents in spence, thurman, brook, bud, and bradley is it?So why not rematch?

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      This is some of the dumbest shyte ever written. Do you post for shock value or do you actually believe this ignorance?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Floyd dont fight in others backyards, he dont fight toughest opponents available in his own division be it brook, bradley, thurman, Spence, bud, if he can help it, he dont fight opponents if they wear the wrong gloves not of his choice, he dont give rematches, so what else is he going to do? Hows he going to be great if he dont do what ive stated and has got such a casual approach? He wont fight Nelo as he outclassed him? Why not fight someone he wont outclass then:? Everyone wanted floyd to lose so why fight Berto? WHy not fight GGG, Sergio at 160 if FLoyd wants demand in a fight, and is scared to outclass people. He wouldnt have outclassed Nelo in rematch anyway as Nelo just fought the wrong fight as well as being drained, just like SRL fought wrong fight with Duran.
        If floyds scared to outclass people again why fight with a CW? Dont use CW then you wont be outclassing anyone! Yay, get everything in your favour, outclass them as a result so dont have to give rematch. FLoyds got it all figured out.
        More ******ity from an idiot.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          Not really end of story as many think prime Nelo beats any version of floyd as does prime pac. Nel o unified 168 with no advantages and he didnt use cw with bivol so why try divert attention from floyd?
          Floyd fans make out the win over Nell so good that nothing Nell can do to equal that? So give Nell rematch then if nothing Nell can do. If you dont give rematch the win for Floyd is worth very little.
          Floyd didn't need to rematch nelo. Only when Floyd fans overrated the win then rematch became needed.
          No rematch was needed, he didn't win a round and looked like fraud's stepson. The ginger unified the SMW division because they were all domestic level fighters, he waited until benavidez lost his belt to announce he would unify, and told everyone he wouldn't fight a Mexican, which is very hypocrite since he made a career of fighting paisanos, and benavidez is ecuadorian&mexican born in Arizona. To top it off, none of the belt holders won the championship from a real Champ, they won it as a vacant belt. Ask yourself why ginger never gave Lara a rematch? He didn't win more than three rounds, why did he elect to just pull down that curtain and pretend that never happen? It took him years and countless fight for him to face another technical boxer in bivol. Tell me why?
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          • #95
            Originally posted by just the facts View Post

            This is some of the dumbest shyte ever written. Do you post for shock value or do you actually believe this ignorance?
            Please leave him along, he made my day.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by garfios View Post

              No rematch was needed, he didn't win a round and looked like fraud's stepson. The ginger unified the SMW division because they were all domestic level fighters, he waited until benavidez lost his belt to announce he would unify, and told everyone he wouldn't fight a Mexican, which is very hypocrite since he made a career of fighting paisanos, and benavidez is ecuadorian&mexican born in Arizona. To top it off, none of the belt holders won the championship from a real Champ, they won it as a vacant belt. Ask yourself why ginger never gave Lara a rematch? He didn't win more than three rounds, why did he elect to just pull down that curtain and pretend that never happen? It took him years and countless fight for him to face another technical boxer in bivol. Tell me why?
              Ginger sacrificed his zero for Floyd with the cw whilst still a little wet behind the ears and green, floyd kept his zero as a result. But don't then inflate the win. No rematch was required, until floyd fans like you inflated the win and it's importance.
              Let Nel o make up for that loss without having to best floyd then. But no, floyd fans say nothing Nell can do, cos Floyd's win over Nell is so so great?
              So stop being a fanboy and say no rematch is needed.
              Nel o don't need to rematch lara, he's moved onto better things. How come what Nell has did since Lara fight has enabled Nell to become no1? What's Lara been doing? How come Lara not no1 in the world? Nel o don't go aroundv saying his win over lara as so amazing. Lara can overcome his loss to Nell by fighting great fighters and winning, so that that loss to Nell don't mean much anyway.
              Like Nell is doing, not even needing to fight floyd in no rematch. You get what I'm saying? Nel o don't need no rematch with floyd, he will have surpassed floyd when all is said and done
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-18-2023, 06:40 PM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                Ginger sacrificed his zero for Floyd with the cw whilst still a little wet behind the ears and green, floyd kept his zero as a result. But don't then inflate the win. No rematch was required, until floyd fans like you inflated the win and it's importance.
                Let Nel o make up for that loss without having to best floyd then. But no, floyd fans say nothing Nell can do, cos Floyd's win over Nell is so so great?
                So stop being a fanboy and say no rematch is needed.
                Nel o don't need to rematch lara, he's moved onto better things. How come what Nell has did since Lara fight has enabled Nell to become no1? What's Lara been doing? How come Lara not no1 in the world? Nel o don't go aroundv saying his win over lara as so amazing. Lara can overcome his loss to Nell by fighting great fighters and winning, so that that loss to Nell don't mean much anyway.
                Like Nell is doing, not even needing to fight floyd in no rematch. You get what I'm saying? Nel o don't need no rematch with floyd, he will have surpassed floyd when all is said and done
                So, you want a 40 yo fraud to rematch ginger, but when the shoe is on the other foot you don't like it. He lost to Lara, he should have rematch the guy and leave no doubt like fraud did, with castillo and maidana. Then fraud moved to to bigger and better thing, like retirement and making millions in exhibition.
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                • #98
                  inspirational how he bounced back so strong,

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by garfios View Post
                    So, you want a 40 yo fraud to rematch ginger, but when the shoe is on the other foot you don't like it. He lost to Lara, he should have rematch the guy and leave no doubt like fraud did, with castillo and maidana. Then fraud moved to to bigger and better thing, like retirement and making millions in exhibition.
                    No, I don't want floyd to rematch nelo. I want floyd fans to not make out the win was so good, and let Nel o continue with his career and make people believe him at his best beats any version of floyd and continue on his journey to become greater than floyd.
                    Floyd rematched madana, but not dlh? I think Lara should continue his career and out do what Nell is doing, his loss to Nell will be seen as minor setback. Just like Nel os loss to floyd was just a learning process which allowed Nell to move into greater heights
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-18-2023, 07:45 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                      No, I don't want floyd to rematch nelo. I want floyd fans to not make out the win was so good, and let Nel o continue with his career and make people believe him at his best beats any version of floyd and continue on his journey to become greater than floyd.
                      Floyd rematched madana, but not dlh? I think Lara should continue his career and out do what Nell is doing, his loss to Nell will be seen as minor setback. Just like Nel os loss to floyd was just a learning process which allowed Nell to move into greater heights
                      I see your point, but the difference is that canelo lost to fraud for real, and definitely didn't win against Lara. He opted to steer away from the Cuban and that was it. I thought canelo would have a better showing than what what he did.

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