I think Fury vs Usyk is done for March

[Toffee]

If Fury was on peds when he fought Wlad, why hasn't Wlad/K2 got the result voided?

Because they didn't have VADA testing for that fight, which Klitschko's team have said they regretted.

Fury's UKAD ban for nandrolone effectively ended up being for one day in Feb 2015 against Hammer then he was eligible for the Klitschko fight in November 2015 and then banned for two years from about two weeks after that fight.

it doesn't get talked about as much as it should. His charge was upheld, yet his period of ineligibility was conveniently backdated to just miss his title fight.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Because that is a fight that would generate the most money.

I doubt. Joshua is a washed up dude with 3 losses. Who really cares about him?

[Eff Pandas]

With approval of the org they can.

The point I was making is that the WBC didn't have to approve it and could have stripped him.

I mean if you are expecting one of the four corrupt groups in boxing giving out the trinkets to make moral judgement calls on bs fights that will earn them money I think you are making a joke rn or not been following what these groups have been doing for decades now.

[Eff Pandas]

It's not moving goal posts. It's the same discussion.

Someone said he won't fight Usyk because he doesn't take tough opponents. You stated he fought two tough opponents already. I showed that he only takes a tough opponent when he doesn't hold a belt... after that he will dodge anyone who carries any kind of risk.

I agree with the original post. I don't see him fighting Usyk because he's holding a belt. He's not taking any chances with that unless he absolutely forced to.

Its is moving the goal posts. When you ask who he has fought that was tough the obv answer is two guys no one can deny are tough. Wlad & Deontay. Idgaf if you think this, that & some other thing about his whole resume. I gave you the answer a sane person wouldn't disagree with & now I see disagreement & goal post moving. Y'all need to quit being so biased & silly about this.

I think he'll fight Usyk as long as the Saudis throw the money at it & I think they will. I think he's gonna beat dude 8-4 or stop him & then we'll see another goal post moving & Usyk will have been "too old" or what have you so ppl still can move with their anti-Tyson narrative into the future.

Fair play if you don't like the guy. Its not relevant to anything tho. Hell I like Tyson, despite not trusting ANYTHING he says too much, & I still think it'd be cool to see Ngannou (the nicest mfer who fights on this planet I think) or Usyk (a guy who keeps going all over the world to beat mfers on their own turf & is the smaller guy at HW) beat Tyson, but I just don't see it happening & by no means do I think a pro fighter at this level as fearing another pro fighter or having a fear of losing like ppl love to say faaaaaaaaaar too often.

[MoneyKing]

Anthony Joshua is fake - he puts on this fake persona for the camera's.

Once someone challenged him he EXPOSED himself (See Jarrell Big Baby Miller confrontation)

Remember those comments he made about race to Eddie Chambers?

I heard allegedly he did the business with a sports journalist in his RR.

Deontay Wilder is fake - once he got money Wilder changed.

One more thing - Fury got set up by that secret society because he called out g*ys and p*dos and j**s and d**il worshippers.

[MONGOOSE66]

Skills Challenge is finished.

Turki Alalshikh is running boxing in Saudi now, at the direction of MBS.

Fury has apparently just signed a 200 million deal with them, and Usyk was seen meeting with Turki Alalshikh last week.

Fury vs Ngannou has been booked to open Riyadh season, and i think that Fury vs Usyk will close Riyadh season in March.

This is why Joshua vs Wilder is dead, that money is going to Tyson and Usyk.

This fight is as bad as Canelo fighting Charlo. A good big man will beat a good small man 9 times out of 10.

[Toffee]

Its is moving the goal posts. When you ask who he has fought that was tough the obv answer is two guys no one can deny are tough. Wlad & Deontay. Idgaf if you think this, that & some other thing about his whole resume. I gave you the answer a sane person wouldn't disagree with & now I see disagreement & goal post moving. Y'all need to quit being so biased & silly about this.

I think he'll fight Usyk as long as the Saudis throw the money at it & I think they will. I think he's gonna beat dude 8-4 or stop him & then we'll see another goal post moving & Usyk will have been "too old" or what have you so ppl still can move with their anti-Tyson narrative into the future.

Fair play if you don't like the guy. Its not relevant to anything tho. Hell I like Tyson, despite not trusting ANYTHING he says too much, & I still think it'd be cool to see Ngannou (the nicest mfer who fights on this planet I think) or Usyk (a guy who keeps going all over the world to beat mfers on their own turf & is the smaller guy at HW) beat Tyson, but I just don't see it happening & by no means do I think a pro fighter at this level as fearing another pro fighter or having a fear of losing like ppl love to say faaaaaaaaaar too often.

Fighters don't fear fighters. But they do make business and legacy decisions.

My belief is that Fury is focused on low risk business decisions. I don't really care what he says, I look at what he does. And while his utterings are all over the place, his actions aren't. He's actually very consistent.

It would be out of the ordinary for Fury to choose to fight Usyk.

And that is what the discussion was about. Not whether he's ever fought a tough fighter. He's a two time champion, of course he's fought tough opponents... its about whether he would choose to do that when he's got something to lose. And he's never done that. Not once.

EDIT: I should add that I actually don't have an issue with what Fury is. I believe he has decided he will make as much money as possible while taking as few risks to his body and brain as possible. His brother seems to be doing pretty much the same. That's fine by me - I've no right to expect any more from them. Their brains, their decision.

But as a boxing fan it's not something I rate in boxing terms. Tyson could be an all time great.

[Rockin']

Skills Challenge is finished.

Turki Alalshikh is running boxing in Saudi now, at the direction of MBS.

Fury has apparently just signed a 200 million deal with them, and Usyk was seen meeting with Turki Alalshikh last week.

Fury vs Ngannou has been booked to open Riyadh season, and i think that Fury vs Usyk will close Riyadh season in March.

This is why Joshua vs Wilder is dead, that money is going to Tyson and Usyk.

Nothing in boxing is 'done' until you get both fighters in the ring awaiting the opening bell.

I hear what you're saying doe. .................Rockin'

[Eff Pandas]

Fighters don't fear fighters. But they do make business and legacy decisions.

Sure I'd agree with that. And soon the business move will be Tyson vs Usyk when the Saudis pull out their wallet.

My belief is that Fury is focused on low risk business decisions. I don't really care what he says, I look at what he does. And while his utterings are all over the place, his actions aren't. He's actually very consistent.

Well yea. He says all kinds of sh^t. We agree on that too.

It would be out of the ordinary for Fury to choose to fight Usyk.

Disagree. Wlad & Deontay were more threatening opps.

And that is what the discussion was about. Not whether he's ever fought a tough fighter. He's a two time champion, of course he's fought tough opponents... its about whether he would choose to do that when he's got something to lose. And he's never done that. Not once.

The initial sh^t was 100% about tough opps. Then the goal post moved & you are trying to make me engage in some 12 day back n forth about sh^t we won't ever agree on.

And no idea wtf you are talking about with "something to lose". There is something to lose in any fight. Hell if he loses to Ngannou he's gonna become an embarrassment to everyone in the sport & who's a fan of the sport to some degree.

The reality is he really doesn't have a peer right now to have a "tough opp" "to lose something to". Usyk is gonna be "too old" the day after Tyson beats him or "overrated" or "too small" or something. Just wait & watch. There is NO ONE in the division to beat right now that will make some ppl a fan or respect Tyson as a boxer. Thats just the way some ppl are. I don't find that a fruitful way to watch & enjoy the sport myself, but lotsa ppl love hating mfers more than liking mfers for w/e reason.

[Toffee]

Eff Pandas

I won't quote all that...

But if he fights Usyk I'll give him all the credit in the world. I don't even care who wins - may the best man win.