Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson-Frank Martin: Top Rank, TGB Come To Agreement For Fight On ESPN

[HisExcellency]

Frank is crazy overrated. About to get washed to save Tank the embarrassment.

I respect your track record in predicting world champions…very impressive. However, you’re WRONG about Martin as he definitely has the tools to become a world champion in a less stacked division and is therefore NOT overrated. Having said that, Shakur is a generational talent so I fully expect him to beat the brakes off him (just like the Valdez fight).

[messi807]

It won't be long before Shakur follows his mentor, Terence Crawford!

Oh for sure! This pattern has been happening the past 2 decades. “It’s Haymon’s fault”

[messi807]

Wilder vs Ruiz
Martin vs Tank
Benavidez vs Morrell
Canelo Vs Benavidez

Is that's Top Ranks fault too.

Canelo doesn’t want to fight Benavidez.

Ruiz turned down Wilder because of the money.

Benavidez turned down Morrell and Benavidez vs
Andrade is almost finalised!

Martin vs Tank lol when has there been any demand for that fight?

You're mixing fighters that don’t want to fight other fighters with ‘network issues’ lol.

Let me ask you a question… in the last 2 decades why have so much fighters left Arum & gone elsewhere mainly to Showtime/Haymon?

[tomhawq]

Why did Haney choose to go after Prograis, instead of Teo?

Any idea why PBC/Haymon want nothing to do with Haney? He was a free agent then, he became free agent again, yet no offers were/are made coming from Haymon. Why is that? I mean Haney's fans, majority of them, are PBC fans. They crucified Arum and Hearn when Haney was with them, yet Haymon don't want him. Don't you find it odd that Haney is not with PBC?

[Oldskoolg]

Or, lets wait for the MR fanboys to start screaming about "PBC island" and how Haymon doesn't let his fighters go anywhere when we've just recently seen Fulton, Porter and now Frank go over to TR and ESPN>

Lad, put away your folding chair mate, they can’t take too much of that truth lol

[Bronx2245]

Any idea why PBC/Haymon want nothing to do with Haney? He was a free agent then, he became free agent again, yet no offers were/are made coming from Haymon. Why is that? I mean Haney's fans, majority of them, are PBC fans. They crucified Arum and Hearn when Haney was with them, yet Haymon don't want him. Don't you find it odd that Haney is not with PBC?

No, I do not! Bill & Devin are their own businessmen! They don't feel like they need Mayweather, and it might be because Mayweather chose to embrace Tank, and not Haney! Devin was very close to the Mayweathers, while growing up, but it's clear Devin wants his own path!

Now back to the question! If Haney is a Free Agent, and Teofimo Lopez is a Free Agent, why do you think Haney chose to pursue Regis Prograis, and not Teofimo Lopez? Why would Haney only offer Shakur 25% of the pie?

[tomhawq]

No, I do not! Bill & Devin are their own businessmen! They don't feel like they need Mayweather, and it might be because Mayweather chose to embrace Tank, and not Haney! Devin was very close to the Mayweathers, while growing up, but it's clear Devin wants his own path!

Not when they were nobodies and no one wanted to sign them. Not Mayweather, not Haymon. Then Eddie Hearn came into the father and son team's life. That's when things turn around for them.

Now back to the question! If Haney is a Free Agent, and Teofimo Lopez is a Free Agent, why do you think Haney chose to pursue Regis Prograis, and not Teofimo Lopez? Why would Haney only offer Shakur 25% of the pie?

Haney and Bill have a fair amount of video clips calling Teo out in front of his face. Which just means they don't really see Teo as some terrifying boogeyman as you seem to suggest here. They can make the fight any time they want. Ball is in Teo's court..

Prograis signed with Eddie Hearn, who Haney had many kumbaya moments with. Haney credits Hearn for eveything he had achieved in the sport. It just makes sense for Haney to be with his long lost dad. Matchroom/DAZN is home to Haney just like PBC/SHO is home to the Charlos, Spence, Tank, Ennis, Floyd, etc.

I don't think Haney is going back to 135, so this Shakur thing is a moot point.

[Bronx2245]

Not when they were nobodies and no one wanted to sign them. Not Mayweather, not Haymon. Then Eddie Hearn came into the father and son team's life. That's when things turn around for them.

Haney and Bill have a fair amount of video clips calling Teo out in front of his face. Which just means they don't really see Teo as some terrifying boogeyman as you seem to suggest here. They can make the fight any time they want. Ball is in Teo's court..

Prograis signed with Eddie Hearn, who Haney had many kumbaya moments with. Haney credits Hearn for eveything he had achieved in the sport. It just makes sense for Haney to be with his long lost dad. Matchroom/DAZN is home to Haney just like PBC/SHO is home to the Charlos, Spence, Tank, Ennis, Floyd, etc.

I don't think Haney is going back to 135, so this Shakur thing is a moot point.

First, "turned around?" He couldn't get a title fight while at MatchRoom! He had to sign a 3-Fight Deal with Top Rank, or he wouldn't see Kambo or Lomachenko! If all was good at MatchRoom, he would've never signed to TR! Fulton wasn't signed to TR, and he got a fight with Inoue. Martin is not signed with TR, and he's getting Shakur!

Second, notice how you say "it's on Tank to make an offer," and "the ball is in Teo's court?" So Haney bears no responsibility at all?

Lastly, you and I both know Haney is not going back to 135, so why would he offer Shakur an offer, and propose "a 25 % split?" That's a sucker move to say, "Oh, I offered him a fight, and he turned it down!" Haney ain't low! We see him! That's a b!tch move!

[boxingitis]

Canelo doesn’t want to fight Benavidez.

Ruiz turned down Wilder because of the money.

Benavidez turned down Morrell and Benavidez vs
Andrade is almost finalised!

Martin vs Tank lol when has there been any demand for that fight?

You're mixing fighters that don’t want to fight other fighters with ‘network issues’ lol.

Let me ask you a question… in the last 2 decades why have so much fighters left Arum & gone elsewhere mainly to Showtime/Haymon?

So you blame promoters instead of the fighter that don't want to fight other fighters from other network. If Fury doesn't want to fight Usky, how is that Bob Arums Fault.

Because they already beat everyone at Top Rank, same as Canelo left GOLDEN BOY and MATCHROOM. PBC never leave because they only fight once a year, when is Gary Russell Jr fighting again, Leo Santa Cruz. They just stay in the shelf, which is much bettet than fiding another promoter who actually gives them fights.

When was a there a demand for Davis vs Hector Garcia?

[tomhawq]

First, "turned around?" He couldn't get a title fight while at MatchRoom! He had to sign a 3-Fight Deal with Top Rank, or he wouldn't see Kambo or Lomachenko! If all was good at MatchRoom, he would've never signed to TR! Fulton wasn't signed to TR, and he got a fight with Inoue. Martin is not signed with TR, and he's getting Shakur!

Second, notice how you say "it's on Tank to make an offer," and "the ball is in Teo's court?" So Haney bears no responsibility at all?

You can deny it all you want but it was Eddie Hearn who put Devin Haney on the boxing map. Haney and Hearn had also offered Ellerbe/Tank to replace Romero who was having legal problems. Hell broke loose for Ellerbe and turned down Haney's offer for Tank's late replacement opponent. They picked Isaac Cruz.

You seem to always make it a big deal about Fulton and now Martin crossing the street. Reality is either Fulton and Martin had no good alternative fights at PBC, thus it was a no brainer for Fulton and now Martin to accept better offers outside of PBC. Fulton hated the rematch with Figueroa, who was Fulton's only option at PBC.

Tank don't want Martin for his next fight. And as already mentioned by others, Delos Santos is his only real choice, which is a high risk, low reward fight. Would you rather let them rot at PBC? Or just be happy for them they got the lucrative fights most fighters dream of?