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  • #21
    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

    And Errol Spence looked awful and nowhere close to the version that destroyed Ugas.

    Which is why real fans support fighters that rematch losses. We can’t assume that history is guaranteed to repeat.
    And Ugas against Spence looked nowhere near the version that fought Porter.

    The hype Spence got from that win was absurd.

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    • #22
      Happens a bit on here. A few punches land and no-one can understand how the reverse result could possibly happen in a rematch.

      They said Ruiz would flatten AJ again. That Povetkin would knock Whyte out again. Smith would level Eubank. And that there's no way Joyce can win against Zhang.

      These were all fights where the favourite lost. I don't understand how the favourite suddenly goes to 'no chance' in a rematch. Boxing doesn't work that way.

      And that's why Joyce isn't a massive outsider. But I still think he's a good value bet... you're basically getting improved odds on the basis of a one off injury.​​​​​

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Loque-san View Post

        And Ugas against Spence looked nowhere near the version that fought Porter.

        The hype Spence got from that win was absurd.
        Ugas was clean outboxing Spence until the mouthpiece went flying. Then Spence broke the “Man Down”.

        it’s that breaking down that defines his career. It was never boxing masterclass, just brutality.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post
          Vast majority of you gave Young Eubank no chance.

          You said that Smith was simply the better fighter.


          You said the rematch was pointless.

          AFTER this, you now recognize how being weight drained completely changes the fight (not to mention Chris trying to be Roy Jones).

          Do you understand now, NSB? Do you?
          Yup, even though it doesn’t matter who wins cause neither is elite.

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          • #25
            One good bump since IceTrayDaGang still doesn't understand how the sport works - that you can't go by fight 1 to predict fight 2.​

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post
              One good bump since IceTrayDaGang still doesn't understand how the sport works - that you can't go by fight 1 to predict fight 2.​
              put up some cash then if you are so confident that the rematch will be any different.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                put up some cash then if you are so confident that the rematch will be any different.
                Here's what I believe.

                I believe that Spence activating the rematch clause means he knows full well he didn't show up on the night.

                I believe he wasn't physically OR mentally 100% going into that fight.

                Kell Brook was able to close one of Crawford's eyes with a jab, yet Spence could do nothing.

                Kavaliauskas was able to drop Crawford off a two-piece, yet Spence could do nothing.

                Gamboa Bambi-legged Crawford off a check shot, yet Spence could do nothing.

                Jeff Horn survived longer and took less overall punishment than Spence.

                These outcomes are inconsistent with Spence's performance. Crawford looked mostly the same. Spence wasn't there.

                Okay. Let's run it back at 154 and remove weight draining as a possible explanation.

                Because what I believe, is that a Spence that fully shows up is definitely going to get hit, but never rocked, not dropped. And I believe he deserves a chance to show whether that's the case or not. That's all I'm saying.

                Fighters should be celebrated for wanting that smoke instead of pulling a Michael Spinks and slinking away in disgrace. AND, if Spence manages to deal with Crawford at 154, it proves he just outgrew 147.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                  Here's what I believe.

                  I believe that Spence activating the rematch clause means he knows full well he didn't show up on the night.

                  I believe he wasn't physically OR mentally 100% going into that fight.

                  Kell Brook was able to close one of Crawford's eyes with a jab, yet Spence could do nothing.

                  Kavaliauskas was able to drop Crawford off a two-piece, yet Spence could do nothing.

                  Gamboa Bambi-legged Crawford off a check shot, yet Spence could do nothing.

                  Jeff Horn survived longer and took less overall punishment than Spence.

                  These outcomes are inconsistent with Spence's performance. Crawford looked mostly the same. Spence wasn't there.

                  Okay. Let's run it back at 154 and remove weight draining as a possible explanation.

                  Because what I believe, is that a Spence that fully shows up is definitely going to get hit, but never rocked, not dropped. And I believe he deserves a chance to show whether that's the case or not. That's all I'm saying.

                  Fighters should be celebrated for wanting that smoke instead of pulling a Michael Spinks and slinking away in disgrace. AND, if Spence manages to deal with Crawford at 154, it proves he just outgrew 147.
                  omg... wtf is spence supposed to do? decline the rematch? how do you think fans is gonna view spence if he does that? how will he secure big fights after doing that? of course he's gonna exercise the rematch but that still wont change the outcome!! so you are telling me, after amir khan got knocked out by canelo, if canelo would gave him a rematch, the outcome would be different because khan is motivated now? FOH!!!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                    Here's what I believe.

                    I believe that Spence activating the rematch clause means he knows full well he didn't show up on the night.

                    I believe he wasn't physically OR mentally 100% going into that fight.

                    Kell Brook was able to close one of Crawford's eyes with a jab, yet Spence could do nothing.

                    Kavaliauskas was able to drop Crawford off a two-piece, yet Spence could do nothing.

                    Gamboa Bambi-legged Crawford off a check shot, yet Spence could do nothing.

                    Jeff Horn survived longer and took less overall punishment than Spence.

                    These outcomes are inconsistent with Spence's performance. Crawford looked mostly the same. Spence wasn't there.

                    Okay. Let's run it back at 154 and remove weight draining as a possible explanation.

                    Because what I believe, is that a Spence that fully shows up is definitely going to get hit, but never rocked, not dropped. And I believe he deserves a chance to show whether that's the case or not. That's all I'm saying.

                    Fighters should be celebrated for wanting that smoke instead of pulling a Michael Spinks and slinking away in disgrace. AND, if Spence manages to deal with Crawford at 154, it proves he just outgrew 147.
                    just as i thought... ignored putting up cash. if you so confident, put some cash up! im not talking about betting against a random stranger on boxingscene... go put some money up on a betting site and post the receipt! bet you wont do it.. bu bu bu but!!!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                      omg... wtf is spence supposed to do? decline the rematch? how do you think fans is gonna view spence if he does that? how will he secure big fights after doing that? of course he's gonna exercise the rematch but that still wont change the outcome!! so you are telling me, after amir khan got knocked out by canelo, if canelo would gave him a rematch, the outcome would be different because khan is motivated now? FOH!!!
                      Bottom line: NSB (you) should not be trashing on Spence saying "no point in a rematch".

                      You should act like a fan and respect the man - AND more importantly, recognize that THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE for a fighter to win the rematch.

                      If you recognize that Chris Eubank recently proved that a rematch can go completely differently, then you need to recognize that Spence could very well pull the same off for the same reason.

                      If you don't, you're a mark, not a fan.

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