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  • MrShakeAndBake
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    #11
    Originally posted by sidefx996
    If Fury ever fights him that's what you're going to see. Lots of leaning, etc. Dubois isn't THAT much bigger than Usyk, but Chisora is right. That's what they said they were going to do before the fight, which I why I'm surprised I didn't see even more low blows. As was said though it's easier said than done. Fury will definitely try to rough him up.
    Fury is too slow and impotent in the power department, unless you are dead tired ans wobbling like Wilder. Usyk is not going be on the ropes and allow Fury to hang on him. He is going stick and move and Fury knows it

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    • GlassJoey
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      #12
      I think I need to put Delboy out to stud to breed a generation of heavyweights with a good gas tank!

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      • BigZ44
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        #13
        WAR Del Boy!!!

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          #14
          Dubois folded like a cheap suite, no denying that.

          I just don't get why Chisora who was well positioned/ranked in a weak era never bothered to sharpen their tools, perfect their craft etc. Imagine Chisora with basic skills like Dubois, Parker or Charles Martin..

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          • joe strong
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            #15
            Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake

            Fury is too slow and impotent in the power department, unless you are dead tired ans wobbling like Wilder. Usyk is not going be on the ropes and allow Fury to hang on him. He is going stick and move and Fury knows it
            Fury can box in either stance & is 6’9 270 with an 85-86” reach… As great as Usyk is those physical dimensions are going to be hard to overcome. Fury knows how to box long & smother. He will lean on him & go to the body while doing it. It’s not impossible to see a Usyk win but it will be very difficult. I favour Fury 75/25 due to his excellent skillset & size.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #16
              Originally posted by joe strong

              Fury can box in either stance & is 6’9 270 with an 85-86” reach… As great as Usyk is those physical dimensions are going to be hard to overcome. Fury knows how to box long & smother. He will lean on him & go to the body while doing it. It’s not impossible to see a Usyk win but it will be very difficult. I favour Fury 75/25 due to his excellent skillset & size.
              Is Tyson Fury a solid at the weight 270 pounds? No.

              You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.

              Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.

              It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.

              Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.

              Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.

              Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.

              Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc.





              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-01-2023, 06:10 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                Is Tyson Fury a solid at the weight 270 pounds? No.

                You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.

                Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.

                It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.

                Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.

                Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.

                Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.

                Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc. As Larry Merchant used to say “A great big man will always beat a great small man”…




                Convince myself? I never said Usyk would be intimidated. I said it will be hard to overcome his dimensions. Not impossible but very difficult. I don’t have to convince myself of anything. It is clear from the Joshua & Dubois fights Usyk don’t like the body shots. I’m pretty sure Fury will be testing those waters. I give Usyk only a 25% chance of winning. That is my opinion & until I see the fight it really doesn’t matter what you or i think before it happens.
                Last edited by joe strong; 09-01-2023, 07:05 PM.

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                  #18
                  Chisora talks sheet because Dubois trainer DC trained AJ out of the Olympics and Chisora didn’t want that to happen. He seems to still hold a grudge with DC and this is why he talks negatively about Dubois.

                  Yes he showed a lot of heart in the ring, but never won a major title. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has a neurological disease as the years go by, because he took plenty of punches because his style exposed his lack of defense. Chisora is a hater and cries like a little beech when he doesn’t get his way. All his talk, what did he accomplish? Being a good opponent for heavyweight fighters. He didn’t accomplish sheet and that’s a fact. Many fighters kicked that ass.

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                  • Pigeons
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                    #19
                    I agree with Chisora. Dubois is a p**ssy. A gay, effeminate, British p**ssy. If Chisora and Warren see it, I see it too. What a waste of beef.

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                    • sledgehammer17
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      Is Tyson Fury a solid at the weight 270 pounds? No.

                      You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.

                      Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.

                      It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.

                      Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.

                      Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.

                      Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.

                      Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc.




                      Yes BJ looks the part, with his muscles, but he is a naturally skinny tall man, he has had to build himself up, fury is the naturally bigger man by far and will look huge compared to OU, unless his mind breaks again, fury beats BJ and OU easy. Boxing is not a bodybuilding contest, never judge a book by its cover

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