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  • #11
    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
    If he'd knocked down Dubois with the same ****, it was a knockdown.

    And Usyk himself has already said, Id have jumped up if I'd heard a count. He admitted he was play acting for time to recover from the body shot. Had he got up after a count he would have been very vulnerable.

    People pulled up diagrams of the "foul punch lines". Arms, back of head, etc. Guys get hit on all those areas during fights and they get knocked down at times and it is not an illegal blow, as fighters are moving and turning. A shot to the back of the head is only ever called if a fighter has his back turned totally and the other guy aims at that area.

    Point being, Usyk was bent, the shot hit him in the navel area, not the groin. We all know what is always called a low blow, it is a punch below the belt, in the cup, the groin, etc. That shot is legal in 99% of fights, if Usyk had hit Dubois with it, no low blow. It was hometown bull****.

    I agree with others, time to move on. But it was some bull****.
    thats true

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    • #12
      It wasn’t a severe low blow meaning it wasn't
      blatantly low, but boarderline judgement call. Depending on who the ref was, they might’ve ruled it legal.

      After I viewed a replay from a certain angle, most of the punch delivered below the waistline and coming up from below. Some of it on the bottom of the waistband. But if you look close, you can see the foul protector underneath the trunks move.

      I would say it was low, but Usyk definitely hurt and if it was ruled legal, I think he definitely would’ve made the count, but would’ve struggled to do so and probably would’ve survived. Usyk took his time because he saw it was Immediately ruled low, so of course he’s taking his time.

      Also, notice how Usyk is instantly dropped. Most of the time with body shots, there’s some delay. Usyk took zero time to determine, “should I fake this?” It was real pain.

      Also the ref had a clear line of sight and he made the determination right away. He didn’t even really take the time to process Usyk reaction.

      It doesn’t have to be a shot on the balls for it to be considered low. It just has to be slightly below the bellybutton. Since the bellybutton wasn’t visible, we can say the belt line is legal, which is what most refs would say anyways.

      That punch, while it wasn’t extremely below the belt line, I’d say it was low.
      Last edited by b Murphington; 08-30-2023, 02:20 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post

        Are you feeling ok, mate?
        Yeh I'm not too bad thanks. I'm just saying regardless where it landed, usyk s on canvas

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        • #14
          I don't see why people are making such a big deal about this. It was clearly a controversial punch that landed. Those for Usyk will indicate it was a low blow, those for Dubois will say it was legal. If Usyk said he would of jumped up had a count began, it means, he wasn't hurt enough to take an L. He already was aware that the ref ruled it a low blow so at that point, why not milk it? Clearly it was a powerful shot and rung the cherry berries, so why would you just say, I'm good immediately and go in? I think the ref giving him more time than he even needed is questionable, but it doesn't change the outcome. Dubois should of jumped right on Usyk if he thought he could do it again or land a KO blow.

          At the end of the day, the fans of Dubois and Dubois himself would of never heard the end of it if he won off that shot. It would have been better if he landed a clean, decisive KO to prevent any excuses and won in that manner.

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          • #15
            Nothing funnier than “boxing fans” (quoted because the jury is still out) talking about losing respect for a fighter, while pretending they actually matter. It was a low blow, hate it, don’t accept it, whatever, Usyk still has his belts and you still have words. Considering the amount of analysis that’s barren done on what is hard to argue against being a one sided fight, it’s crazy to me folks are still talking this much shhhh.

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            • #16
              Normally I don't agree with Fast Eddie but he's right it was a glancing uppercut that hit his foul protector first and then slid upwards because it was an uppercut. Everyone keeps posting still photos like we aren't in 2023 and there aren't videos showing the punch in motion lmao. You can see his cup move through his trunks and you can also watch all the other low blows and hip shots DuBois was throwing before that shot.

              Usyk doesn't like body shots that much is obvious but why didn't Daniel aim for the liver or solar plexus? He was aiming for the trunks with every shot definitely not a clean fighter. I find it funny though that people are giving Usyk a hard time about body shots when Tyson Fury wears his trunks right below his man breasts. Why is that?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                I don't see why people are making such a big deal about this. It was clearly a controversial punch that landed. Those for Usyk will indicate it was a low blow, those for Dubois will say it was legal. If Usyk said he would of jumped up had a count began, it means, he wasn't hurt enough to take an L. He already was aware that the ref ruled it a low blow so at that point, why not milk it? Clearly it was a powerful shot and rung the cherry berries, so why would you just say, I'm good immediately and go in? I think the ref giving him more time than he even needed is questionable, but it doesn't change the outcome. Dubois should of jumped right on Usyk if he thought he could do it again or land a KO blow.

                At the end of the day, the fans of Dubois and Dubois himself would of never heard the end of it if he won off that shot. It would have been better if he landed a clean, decisive KO to prevent any excuses and won in that manner.
                I'm not "for" either fighter, I'm for the rules, which means it was clearly a low blow and there's no valid argument otherwise. People are just used to refs allowing work in that area because so many fighters wear their trunks too high. Usyk's belly button was visible at times in the fight (contrary to the story that people have come up with that he pulled them up after the fight was over).

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                • #18
                  If Eddie Hearn is so dam smart why didn't he lay some of his boxing wisdom on AJ? Next he'll claim Usyk had his belly button surgically lowered. Eddie Hearn is a hind-sight genius that's full of crap.

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                  • #19
                    I'm guessing if the all knowing Eddie Hearn was in AJ's corner, AJ wouldn't have gotten beaten up for 12 rounds...twice. .
                    Last edited by factsarenice; 08-30-2023, 03:42 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      It was low as ref said it was.But if it landed 2 inches higher it would've knocked him down too, so it's an official knockdown imo
                      Like saying, ref ruled it behind the head punch, but it wouldve knocked him out if it hit him on the chin too, so its a legal kd.

                      Either its low or its legit. It cant be both.

                      EDIT: spelling
                      Last edited by BustedKnuckles; 08-30-2023, 09:17 PM.

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