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  • #11
    Let's go Champ! If Ngannou keeps it inside and clinches after flurries and after Fury combinations. He obviously has the stamina to go five 5miinute rounds in the UFC. He needs to close the ring and keep it an inside fight. Jabbing and countering. Constant latera and headl movements: chin tucked and hands up. Gotta conserve energy, pick spots, throw combinations, established the jab, and take Fury's power. Ngannou must believe in and will hinself. Not impossible. Ngannou has a better chance than any MMA UFC fighter switching to boxing so far.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Silence View Post
      Fury is the closest thing to be unbeatable.

      You chose a wrong dance partner. You would have a chance against glass AJ.
      That's the tragedy of this. He could've shocked the world against AJ! Here he's just a lamb about to get slaughtered.

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      • #13
        It's obvious Francis will deck fury, fury loves and revels in going down. But that will wake fury up, and then the annihilation begins. Fury will put it on francis

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        • #14
          Ngannou will have no power with padded gloves on. This is a scam fight. Boxing and MMA striking are completely different. Even the movements for defence are different.

          Fury is a terrible champion - only defended his belts twice his whole career. Next he should fight Jake Paul

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Raimondo View Post
            This is a business fight/show. It should've been a kickboxing/muay thai fight with mma gloves to be a very intriguing fight. Fury has all the advantages on his side. Easy big money for Fury.
            Fury has said, and it's out there in a video, that he'd NEVER get in a cage to fight. Yeah, real fighting man. Get in the cage with Ngannou; he's stepping up to box with you!

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            • #16
              Fingers crossed for a hit below the belt by Francis to send Frank Warren into even more of a rabid rage

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
                Ngannou will have no power with padded gloves on. This is a scam fight. Boxing and MMA striking are completely different. Even the movements for defence are different.

                Fury is a terrible champion - only defended his belts twice his whole career. Next he should fight Jake Paul
                I give it 40:1 odds that my response is above your pay grade, but what the heck.
                If you would, please; Educate us all on how MMA "Striking" is "Different" than Boxing. Specifically.

                We already know that any of the 4 principal disciplines incorporated into MMA, Freestyle/Greco-Roman wrestling/Judo, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu/Submission grappling, Muay Thai/Full-contact Karate Kickboxing, and Western boxing All have to be adapted to the rules of engagement, whatever they may be.

                Adaptation to rules that present additional challenges and opportunities will naturally call for an altered application for boxing or any of the other three legs of the "Four legged table" that the open MMA game calls for.

                That much is old news and rather obvious.

                What I want to know is, what specific punching mechanics are "Different" between MMA Striking and Boxing????

                Not the adaptation for maximim offensive and defensive effectiveness. That's rudimentary.

                What I'm holding you accountable to explain to us is, Specific Examples of what the punching techniques ARE that noted MMA trainers like Greg Jackson, Trevor Wittman, Pat Miletich, Fernand Lopez, Freddie Roach, Firas Zahabi, Richard Perez, Rafael Cordeiro, Jason Parillo, Mike Brown, Battu Robinson, Chuck Eisenberg, Matt Hume and Ray Longo Teach in the gym that are Not borrowed from Boxing.

                MMA punching that Boxing isn't responsible for
                .

                Having covered boxing since 1975, attended UFC 1 in Denver and aided in the crafting of the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts, which were adopted by the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC) on July 30, 2009 in the whole of the US and then everywhere elsewhere, effectively salvaging the sport following it's death in Japan; I'm a humble scribe who thought he knew this subject thoroughly.
                But life in a never ending school.

                So teach me!!!!
                Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 09-03-2023, 12:13 PM.

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                • #18
                  If Ngannou is finally out of PEDs, he has a pathetic cardio, zero IQ and poor technique even for MMA, but he will lose some of his power as well. So if Fury doesn't decide to toy with him for a little longer, the fight will be totally one-sided.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                    I give it 40:1 odds that my response is above your pay grade, but what the heck.
                    If you would, please; Educate us all on how MMA "Striking" is "Different" than Boxing. Specifically.

                    We already know that any of the 4 principal disciplines incorporated into MMA, Freestyle/Greco-Roman wrestling/Judo, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu/Submission grappling, Muay Thai/Full-contact Karate Kickboxing, and Western boxing All have to be adapted to the rules of engagement, whatever they may be.

                    Adaptation to rules that present additional challenges and opportunities will naturally call for an altered application for boxing or any of the other three legs of the "Four legged table" that the open MMA game calls for.

                    That much is old news and rather obvious.

                    What I want to know is, what specific punching mechanics are "Different" between MMA Striking and Boxing????

                    Not the adaptation for maximim offensive and defensive effectiveness. That's rudimentary.

                    What I'm holding you accountable to explain to us is, Specific Examples of what the punching techniques ARE that noted MMA trainers like Greg Jackson, Trevor Wittman, Pat Miletich, Fernand Lopez, Freddie Roach, Firas Zahabi, Richard Perez, Rafael Cordeiro, Jason Parillo, Mike Brown, Battu Robinson, Chuck Eisenberg, Matt Hume and Ray Longo Teach in the gym that are Not borrowed from Boxing.

                    MMA punching that Boxing isn't responsible for
                    .

                    Having covered boxing since 1975, attended UFC 1 in Denver and aided in the crafting of the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts, which were adopted by the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC) on July 30, 2009 in the whole of the US and then everywhere elsewhere, effectively salvaging the sport following it's death in Japan; I'm a humble scribe who thought he knew this subject thoroughly.
                    But life in a never ending school.

                    So teach me!!!!
                    A good example is Conor McGregror saying "Floyd kept changing his style BUT when he put his gloves up and just started marching forward - I had no answer" In MMA you just can't defend yourself fully in that way. You can't catch punches on your gloves anyway near as reliable as with boxing gloves. He's dealing with things he is not used to.

                    Also noticed how easy Conor landed punches on Floyd. In MMA they punch more with the arm - it's faster because they get more power by not having the padded gloves. However his punches had no effect. In MMA he was KOing people all over the place

                    Also these are guys used to defending kicks and takedowns as well as punches. Their defensive hand position is different. It's a huge difference from round after round having to defend ONLY punches. and against people who are used to finding different ways to hit you ONLY with punches. They just don't know all the "tricks" that boxers haven't learnt from round after round experience.

                    I'm not sure why you need me to educate you. It's the same reason why a great baseball player doesn't suddenly become a great cricketer and vice versa. Only casuals would think they were equivalent because they both involve hitting a ball with a stick
                    Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 09-04-2023, 11:51 AM.

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                    • #20
                      How funny would it be if Ngannou comes out with a peek-a-boo style and throws the old Mike Tyson hook to the body followed by an uppercut. It won't work, but it'd be great to see just for the sake of nostalgia.
                      Willow The Wisp Willow The Wisp likes this.

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