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  • TMLT87
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    #21
    He is very good and was clearly winning 90+% of that fight. But yeah, under other circumstances that body shot probably ends the fight. Its not like Dubois did much outside of that one shot though, or that he'd be favoured in a rematch.

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    • Dr. Z
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      #22
      Originally posted by elfag



      he was hit in the stomach its completely legal to hit in the stomach and to hit on the belt.
      But part or most if the glove with is about 8" wide went below the belt, hence it was a low blow and not allowed by the rules. Look at the film which has slow motion on it. Dubious landed two blows below the belt, once draw a face from Usky as if you dirty &#^t in round two, and other an audio warning in round three. There was a patten here.

      IMO, Dubois who looks like he should be in a pride parade, fought dirty. The blow was delivered from an uppercutting fashion. Forget Dubois. He is a chinny fighter and one who has quit in two matches. IMO, he could have beaten the second count last night. He quit.

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      • -DSG-
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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum
        and if ward fought kessler in denmark or anywhere else he would have been dq'd. if he fought kovalev in russia or anywhere else he would have lost a decision and been dq'd. that basically applies to every ward fight now that i think about it.
        Exactly we can play that game for everyone's fights.

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        • NoConcoms
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          #24
          Don't fool yourself.......

          Usyk made Dubois quit, and is still the unified champion. And he'd be undisputed if Fury wasn't so scared.

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          • PRINCEKOOL
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            #25
            People should definitively not fool themselves.

            Usyk apart from his behavior to a marginally low body punch, maybe some referee's would of not even called in a low punch

            Usyk performed quite well, and in all honesty? I never expected him to achieved a stoppage win over Dubois.

            Usyk is and has been fighting at a higher level than Fury now at Heavyweight for sometime 'Skill for skill'.

            Dubois was a more inform fighter than the latest version of Chisora who fought Fury 'And was probably in better form than Whyte'.

            Joshua skill for skill is proven to be a better boxer than Wilder, and he is a Super Heavyweight.

            Usyk is finding the competition at Heavyweight a challenge and difficult, but he is finding a way to win.

            Note: I anticipated that people and Fury's hardcore fans, would kind of try their best to down rate Usyk after this fight depending on his performance 'These fights Usyk is taking are all stylistic challenges'. I think Usyk's performance for me was better than expected, with his knock-downs, aggression and his creativity with his punches.

            I rate Tyson Fury as the number 1 Heavyweight on merit, due to him having two mega wins on his resume 'But his current form for sometime, has been a speculation. Nobody really knows how Fury will perform once he fights another elite level Heavyweight in terms of technical skill 'Wilder was a elite level fight, but in terms of skill for skill Wilder was not a elite level challenge'.

            And that is no disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him very highly for what he is good at 'But no boxing analyst can rate Wilder in terms of technically ability as a elite level fighter' etc.




            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-27-2023, 03:59 PM.

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            • Dr. Z
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              #26
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              People should definitively not fool themselves.

              Usyk apart from his behavior to a marginally low body punch, maybe some referee's would of not even called in a low punch

              Usyk performed quite well, and in all honesty? I never expected him to achieved a stoppage win over Dubois.

              Usyk is and has been fighting at a higher level than Fury now at Heavyweight for sometime 'Skill for skill'.

              Dubois was in more inform fighter than the latest version of Chisora who fought Fury 'And was probably in better form than Whyte'.

              Joshua skill for skill is proven to be a better boxer than Wilder, and he is a Super Heavyweight.

              Usyk is finding the competition at Heavyweight a challenge and difficult, but he is finding a way to win.

              Note: I anticipated that people and Fury's hardcore fans, would kind of try their best to down rate Usyk after this fight depending on his performance 'These fights Usyk is taking are all stylistic challenges'. I think Usyk's performance for me was better than expected, with his knock-downs, aggression and his creativity with his punches.

              I rate Tyson Fury has the number 1 Heavyweight on merit, due to him having two mega wins on his resume 'But his current form for sometime, has been a speculation. Nobody really knows how Fury will perform once he fights another elite level Heavyweight in terms of technical skill 'Wilder was a elite level fight, but in terms of skill for skill Wilder was not a elite level challenge'.

              And that is no disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him very highly for what he is good at 'But no boxing analyst can rate Wilder in terms of technically ability as a elite level fighter' etc.




              Outside of beating the Wildly overrated Deontay ( what his big win again? ) and beating old Wlad who was 39 on points, Fury's resume is void. He is a PED cheater and fouled five times in five separate fights! Who's he fighting next?

              His specialty is the fat, old, and unskilled.
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 08-27-2023, 01:19 PM.

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              • 4truth
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                #27
                Originally posted by mike1010011

                Bud,I hate to be the bearer of bad news,but if your stomach is that far down,you might have a medical condition.

                stomach-illustration.jpg.webp
                They say it is what is on the inside that counts but people are rather disgusting on the inside, so hopefully that isn't true.

                That's nothing to do with the fight, just an observation.

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                • Hype job
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                  #28
                  Doesn't change the fact that it was an illegal punch.

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                  • W1LL
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    ...If Dubois was defending champ and if the fight was in London, that would be a clear KO win for Dubois.

                    Usyk is not very good, he is highly overrated.
                    Spot on, I thought along the same lines. Anyone who ignores these facts has bias. They root for a particular Heavyweight, and acknowledging what happens here likely makes their man look bad. It's that simple. All politics aside, this was a big deal. A wrong decision which directly altered the result of the fight. If this happened to someone like Fury or Canelo, there would be pandemonium. But because it was "just Dubois", who was expected to lose anyway, far too many people just aren't arsed. Too many mentally imbalanced, sycophantic fans in Boxing these days. These people are fine with brushing this travesty under the rug because it fits the narrative they are pushing, and it suits their favourite fighters to ignore wrongdoing in the sport. Madness.

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown
                      Usyk is very good

                      He's also vulnerable to the body and was done with a legit body shot tonight. But that's boxing, it was his occasion and he was refereeing the fight himself in there tonight and the ref was following his lead.

                      Both things can be true.
                      I like your take here. The bold was disgusting to see.
                      The punch was legit and that ref should be fired.

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