Comments Thread For: Froch Not Impressed With Joshua's Win: "That Performance Was Awful!"

[hugh grant]

Who's got the toughest chin? You're not insinuating AJ has the toughest chin do you rofl?

There is no way in Gods green Earth that AJ is going to KO Wilder and I DESPISE Wilder more than any poster here. AJ had his hands full with bummer Helenius and was scared to bits. Wilder; and I hate to say it, is going to retire AJ under 4 rounds.

Josh toughest chin lol? Of course not. I'm saying if wilder loses to Josh I hope he dont retire and he fights Joyce oneday. Toughest punch v toughest chin historically is always interesting. Wilder v Mercer would be been good.
Wilder v DDD will be good one day too. 2 big punchers going at it

[Roberto Vasquez]

Froch is an embarrassment when it comes to Joshua. He comes across like a spoilt kid upset because his father (Robert McCracken) gave the other kid (AJ) more attention. He has insecurity issues.

Whatever you think of AJ's performance - don't listen to Froch. He's just a jealous little kid.

Joshua said it all : "Look at Froch's nose"

[PRINCEKOOL]

Froch is pretty hostile to AJ and obviously feels AJ was disloyal to Rob McCracken. Fact remains, would anyone care to argue that that performance, against a 39 year old who was never better than top 20at his best, was ok?

Joshua's performance vs Helenius is a better performance than Fury's vs Chisora.

We just have to look at the cold hard facts.

Joshua again in his second comeback fight, won 95% of the rounds.

Joshua achieved a knock-out win.

Performances are all about results mate, and Joshua whether people like to admit it or not? Got the desired result vs Helenius.

Tyson Fury in comparison in his last fight against a actual boxer 'A semi-retired boxer in Chisora at the time'.

Fury was unable to legitimately deck or knock out Chisora. The stoppage win was also manufactured 'If the referee did not manufacture that stoppage, Chisora in my opinion would of survived the full-12 rounds'.

Joshua last two fights have pretty much been at the same level as Fury's 'Franklin went the distance with Whyte, and pushed him in a close competitive fight. And Helenius at the time of the Joshua fight, was at a similar level to the version of Chisora who fought Fury'.

People keep complaining about Joshua's performances, I find it fascinating that his critics are so worked up about every single detail 'He did not do this, he did not do that. He's done, he's afraid'.

Anthony Joshua is not a World Champion anymore, he is now a contender 'But he is still being held to a extremely high standard, as if he was a World Champion'.

Both of Fury's last two performances have been under par in my opinion. They were definitively 1000%, not the kind of performances you would expect from a fighter with Fury's reputation 'They were good, satisfactory performances, but not great performances'.

Fury was doing nothing much vs Whyte until the knock out. And I think his hardcore fans should be concerned with his performances vs Chisora.

What reputation does Fury have? The Reputation that he is some kind of genetic marvel, monster fighter, with a skill set that is miles better than any other Heavyweight i.e Apparently Tyson Fury moves like a middle weight.

Overall I would rate Joshua's performances also as satisfactory to good 'Neither of his comeback fights skill for skill have been awful, you don't win 95% of the rounds with awful performances' etc.

[Kzbox]

Joshua's performance vs Helenius is a better performance than Fury's vs Chisora.

We just have to look at the cold hard facts.

Joshua again in his second comeback fight, won 95% of the rounds.

Joshua achieved a knock-out win.

Performances are all about results mate, and Joshua whether people like to admit it or not? Got the desired result vs Helenius.

Tyson Fury in comparison in his last fight against a actual boxer 'A semi-retired boxer in Chisora at the time'.

Fury was unable to legitimately deck or knock out Chisora. The stoppage win was also manufactured 'If the referee did not manufacture that stoppage, Chisora in my opinion would of survived the full-12 rounds'.

Joshua last two fights have pretty much been at the same level as Fury's 'Franklin went the distance with Whyte, and pushed him in a close competitive fight. And Helenius at the time of the Joshua fight, was at a similar level to the version of Chisora who fought Fury'.

People keep complaining about Joshua's performances, I find it fascinating that his critics are so worked up about every single detail 'He did not do this, he did not do that. He's done, he's afraid'.

Anthony Joshua is not a World Champion anymore, he is now a contender 'But he is still being held to a extremely high standard, as if he was a World Champion'.

Both of Fury's last two performances have been under par in my opinion. They were definitively 1000%, not the kind of performances you would expect from a fighter with Fury's reputation 'They were good, satisfactory performances, but not great performances'.

Fury was doing nothing much vs Whyte until the knock out. And I think his hardcore fans should be concerned with his performances vs Chisora.

What reputation does Fury have? The Reputation that he is some kind of genetic marvel, monster fighter, with a skill set that is miles better than any other Heavyweight i.e Apparently Tyson Fury moves like a middle weight.

Overall I would rate Joshua's performances also as satisfactory to good 'Neither of his comeback fights skill for skill have been awful, you don't win 95% of the rounds with awful performances' etc.

He stopped Chisora and knocked out Whyte how is that not better than going the distance? Whyte is better than Helenius too who lost to Whyte bottom line is Fury hasn't lost yet Joshua has 3 times obv people are going to be more critical of him in this day and age. You can blame Hearn too he had the hype machine on full blast for years bigging him up as some kind of ATG when he isn't.

People are also just disappointed considering Joshua is a shadow of himself like a timid deer headlights compared to the old beast who threw bombs and wasn't afraid of getting hit a boxer shouldn't be so afraid of being hit that's one thing you can't criticize Fury for he never shows fear in the ring and will fight until he is sparked out AJ gives up when the going gets tough, Joshua's heart isn't in boxing and even admitted he's only in it for the money.

He's also had controversies which give people valid reason to dislike him threatening college students for next to no reason, his *** racist rant, his Usyk 2 post fight tantrum and generally being a fake person preaching positivity yet we all seen that's not how he really is.

[PRINCEKOOL]

He stopped Chisora and knocked out Whyte how is that not better than going the distance? Whyte is better than Helenius too who lost to Whyte bottom line is Fury hasn't lost yet Joshua has 3 times obv people are going to be more critical of him in this day and age. You can blame Hearn too he had the hype machine on full blast for years bigging him up as some kind of ATG when he isn't.

People are also just disappointed considering Joshua is a shadow of himself like a timid deer headlights compared to the old beast who threw bombs and wasn't afraid of getting hit a boxer shouldn't be so afraid of being hit that's one thing you can't criticize Fury for he never shows fear in the ring and will fight until he is sparked out AJ gives up when the going gets tough, Joshua's heart isn't in boxing and even admitted he's only in it for the money.

He's also had controversies which give people valid reason to dislike him threatening college students for next to no reason, his *** racist rant, his Usyk 2 post fight tantrum and generally being a fake person preaching positivity yet we all seen that's not how he really is.

So now you rate Joshua? Now all along people rate Joshua? Compared to his past self, he is timid you say 'I did not know Joshua's critics rated him so highly'.

People just want Joshua to get beat, and fight with a terrible game plan all the time.

The Whyte knock-out from Fury, saved him from one of his most underwhelming performances 'That one punch embellished his entire performance vs Whyte'.

This version of Whyte can hardly move inside the ring, but he was still getting close to Fury 'And the fight was competitive'. Fury's performances have not been great mate, vs Whyte or Chisora.

Franklin was 22 pounds lighter vs Joshua than he was vs Whyte. Franklin potentially was a entirely different fighter vs Joshua operating at a higher level than before 'Joshua won 95% of the rounds, I have always rated that performance as good'.

The facts are mate, that neither Joshua's or Fury's performances have been super great 'But they have both got the desired results'.

As a whole, I honestly believe Fury's performances should be more concerning. ****ing out Whyte creates somewhat of a illusion of Fury's power, and that was shown in his fight vs Chisora III 'Multiple other Heavyweights would of beaten Chisora & Whyte better than Fury'.

Note: Joshua could of just ignored those students, but really? Certain folk think everyday life is like they are online 'Those men, that's what they were understood that is not how reality works on the streets' Joshua gave those people advice, which they should use.

You say that Fury never shows fear inside the ring, who is Tyson Fury fighting against? Fury chose to fight Wilder instead of Joshua, because him and his team thought Wilder would be a stylistically easier fight than Joshua 'Both Wilder & Fury fought each other to avoid Joshua once upon a time. Everyone who is honest, knows this to be true back in 2018.

Now that is not fear, but Fury is definitively apprehensive of certain fighters 'If Fury was not, he would not have to create angles against his nearest competition. I.E Making fight offers at short notice vs Usyk, and opportunistically making a fight offer towards Joshua during the Uysk aftermath. Fury when he made that offer towards Joshua was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceived vulnerability after losing to Usyk, and many people questioning Joshua's well-being 'It was a opportunistic move, and it was low'.

When is Tyson Fury going to fight Usyk mate? When is Fury actually going to fight another top-level boxer 'You see Fury unlike Joshua, is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion' etc.

[chicken-]

Froch is an embarrassment when it comes to Joshua. He comes across like a spoilt kid upset because his father (Robert McCracken) gave the other kid (AJ) more attention. He has insecurity issues.

Whatever you think of AJ's performance - don't listen to Froch. He's just a jealous little kid.

Joshua said it all : "Look at Froch's nose"

Everything Froch has said is accurate.

[Kzbox]

So now you rate Joshua? Now all along people rate Joshua? Compared to his past self, he is timid you say 'I did not know Joshua's critics rated him so highly'.

People just want Joshua to get beat, and fight with a terrible game plan all the time.

The Whyte knock-out from Fury, saved him from one of his most underwhelming performances 'That one punch embellished his entire performance vs Whyte'.

This version of Whyte can hardly move inside the ring, but he was still getting close to Fury 'And the fight was competitive'. Fury's performances have not been great mate, vs Whyte or Chisora.

Franklin was 22 pounds lighter vs Joshua than he was vs Whyte. Franklin potentially was a entirely different fighter vs Joshua operating at a higher level than before 'Joshua won 95% of the rounds, I have always rated that performance as good'.

The facts are mate, that neither Joshua's or Fury's performances have been super great 'But they have both got the desired results'.

As a whole, I honestly believe Fury's performances should be more concerning. ****ing out Whyte creates somewhat of a illusion of Fury's power, and that was shown in his fight vs Chisora III 'Multiple other Heavyweights would of beaten Chisora & Whyte better than Fury'.

Note: Joshua could of just ignored those students, but really? Certain folk think everyday life is like they are online 'Those men, that's what they were understood that is not how reality works on the streets' Joshua gave those people advice, which they should use.

You say that Fury never shows fear inside the ring, who is Tyson Fury fighting against? Fury chose to fight Wilder instead of Joshua, because him and his team thought Wilder would be a stylistically easier fight than Joshua 'Both Wilder & Fury fought each other to avoid Joshua once upon a time. Everyone who is honest, knows this to be true back in 2018.

Now that is not fear, but Fury is definitively apprehensive of certain fighters 'If Fury was not, he would not have to create angles against his nearest competition. I.E Making fight offers at short notice vs Usyk, and opportunistically making a fight offer towards Joshua during the Uysk aftermath. Fury when he made that offer towards Joshua was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceived vulnerability after losing to Usyk, and many people questioning Joshua's well-being 'It was a opportunistic move, and it was low'.

When is Tyson Fury going to fight Usyk mate? When is Fury actually going to fight another top-level boxer 'You see Fury unlike Joshua, is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion' etc.

The Whyte fight wasn't competitive at all i don't know what fight you was watching but Whyte was getting that frustrated he was resorting to cheat tactics. Aren't you doing the same thing bringing up Fury unprompted then criticizing him? it's obvious you don't like Fury either and that's fine people have their reasons for not liking Fury like people have their reasons for not liking Joshua that's also okay.

Joshua was loved by everybody even grandmas would tune into his fight he brought in casuals who otherwise don't even watch boxing so not sure why you are making out people have always had a vendetta against Joshua when it's not the case at all, as i said seeing how he fights now (scared) and after being fake for so long with his controversies people are allowed to dislike him.

We will see when Fury fights Usyk i don't agree with the ****** Francis circus fight either, i think Fury needs to stop ****ing around whoop both AJ and Usyk's ass to quiet the critics. If you look around you will see Fury gets hate from everybody too the only person who seems to be loved atm is Usyk.

[Madison Boxing]

a few years ago i would have picked joshua with confidence but i think wilder blasts him out now, if he is petrified of opening up against people like helenius and that bum he fought before (forgot his name) he is going to be a mental wreck against wilder, i think joshua would actually do better against fury than wilder now

[alexnation]

Did Ruiz take AJ's soul?

[PRINCEKOOL]

The Whyte fight wasn't competitive at all i don't know what fight you was watching but Whyte was getting that frustrated he was resorting to cheat tactics. Aren't you doing the same thing bringing up Fury unprompted then criticizing him? it's obvious you don't like Fury either and that's fine people have their reasons for not liking Fury like people have their reasons for not liking Joshua that's also okay.

Joshua was loved by everybody even grandmas would tune into his fight he brought in casuals who otherwise don't even watch boxing so not sure why you are making out people have always had a vendetta against Joshua when it's not the case at all, as i said seeing how he fights now (scared) and after being fake for so long with his controversies people are allowed to dislike him.

We will see when Fury fights Usyk i don't agree with the ****** Francis circus fight either, i think Fury needs to stop ****ing around whoop both AJ and Usyk's ass to quiet the critics. If you look around you will see Fury gets hate from everybody too the only person who seems to be loved atm is Usyk.

Whyte vs Fury was competitive alright 'The knock-Out saved him from a underwhelming distance fight'.

And vs Chisora III, Fury stated that he would meet Chisora in the center of the ring and fight him head on 'That never happened'.

People may bring up Chisora vs Usyk, to try and make Fury's performances look even better. But what people overlook is that Usyk is fighting fights which are stylistically a challenge for him, of course the action will be different 'And lets all be really honest, the Chisora who fought Usyk was pretty much the last in condition Chisora who was coming to win 1000%'.

I would say since the Parker rematch, Chisora has not trained to win 'He has gone into fights, knowing that his product is to push his opponents and talk a good one. That is how his brand WarChisora was marketed to the boxing fans'.

Fury is not receiving hate, he is being held to a standard 'Fury has never been held to a standard during his career. Because he has always played the underdog, NOW he is the WBC World Heavyweight Champion and that comes with requirements and tenants'.

Joshua whether he was champion or not has always been held to a high standard 'I think this got to him during the aftermath of Usyk II, but overall on the sly this pressure pushes him on'.

Note: I still rate Fury as the number 1 Heavyweight on merit, lets make that clear. I have not seen the evidence to rate his abilities and form miles ahead of his nearest competition 'Fury definitively is not dominating this era of Heavyweights with his reign. We are not witnessing a title reign like Wladimir Kiltschko's or the Kiltschko's, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis or Muhammad Ali 'Fury is not operating on that level' But his hardcore fans and cronies for some reason are putting him on that level etc.