Comments Thread For: Warren: If Joshua Beats Wilder - So What, Fury Beat Wilder Three Times!

[OldTerry]

Well, if he reitres tomorrow, he will have had a very good career. Just won't be best of era.

Couldn't agree more. He's set for life financially and perhaps tired of risking his health just for additional accolades.

[NYG]

Fury-Wilder 1 was not a draw. Fury won that fight. How can you give Wilder any rounds other than the KD rounds and Fury ended strong both times in those rounds?

[NYG]

The public perception of the first Wilder fight, is that Fury was basically knocked out in the 12th round 'Why else did people keep ****ing on about, how Fury got up off the deck? Everyone knows that effectively he was ****** out'.

But to Tyson Fury's credit, he got up off the canvas from a knock-out blow 'That was the moment which effectively transcended his entire career to another level'.

Lets not over exaggerated here, Fury vs Wilder I was not the same as Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield I 'Is that what you are trying to say mate?'.

Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly 'You do not win World titles away from home in that fashion'.

Wilder vs Fury IIII is still a mega fight. Fury's hardcore fans complained about the 3rd fight being made, and look how that battle turned out.

And I see the same kind of behavior again from Fury's hardcore fans 'Wilder is still a threat to Tyson Fury, Wilder is a threat to most Heavyweights'.

The story and theme of the competition between Fury & Wilder, in my honest opinion is right now still more intriguing than Joshua vs Fury.

Note: Only if Anthony Joshua beats Deontay Wilder, will the Joshua vs Fury match up then become the biggest mega fight in Heavyweight boxing etc.

Who the **** wants to see Fury-Wilder 4? Fury embarassed Wilder in every fight. How many times do we need to see these guys go at it?

[Timur78]

A few days after the third fight, Fury was saying he doesn't feel right and doesn't want to be in any more dangerous fights like that. During the Whyte build up he was saying that Whyte's his final opponent before retiring but he will be back to do crossover fights and exhibitions which is what he's doing now. I don't think he wants Usyk or even AJ for that matter, he's always found a way out of those fights whenever they were a possibility. I could be wrong but I think Fury might be done.

I think you are right. But knowing Fury things can change quickly and suddenly.

And I don't hate Fury (or any other fighter) for wanting to make money and choose easier fights.
It's just when it suits Fury, he will not shut up and keep provoking.
Now the shoe's on the other foot...

[bullydean]

The public perception of the first Wilder fight, is that Fury was basically knocked out in the 12th round 'Why else did people keep ****ing on about, how Fury got up off the deck? Everyone knows that effectively he was ****** out'.

But to Tyson Fury's credit, he got up off the canvas from a knock-out blow 'That was the moment which effectively transcended his entire career to another level'.

Lets not over exaggerated here, Fury vs Wilder I was not the same as Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield I 'Is that what you are trying to say mate?'.

Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly 'You do not win World titles away from home in that fashion'.

Wilder vs Fury IIII is still a mega fight. Fury's hardcore fans complained about the 3rd fight being made, and look how that battle turned out.

And I see the same kind of behavior again from Fury's hardcore fans 'Wilder is still a threat to Tyson Fury, Wilder is a threat to most Heavyweights'.

The story and theme of the competition between Fury & Wilder, in my honest opinion is right now still more intriguing than Joshua vs Fury.

Note: Only if Anthony Joshua beats Deontay Wilder, will the Joshua vs Fury match up then become the biggest mega fight in Heavyweight boxing etc.

You just rambled.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You just rambled.

I told you how it was mate.

Tyson Fury did not beat Deontay Wilder in their first fight.

Wilder out worked Fury, backed him up all night, and decked him twice once badly.

It was not a robbery, the fight was a draw etc.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Who the **** wants to see Fury-Wilder 4? Fury embarassed Wilder in every fight. How many times do we need to see these guys go at it?

Who wanted to see Wilder vs Fury III? Great fights or rivalries are created almost organically 'Because of the passion and competition between the fighters'.

Of course right now? I don't really think Wilder vs Fury IIII is warranted. But if Wilder is able to get himself in contention again for a title fight? Wilder vs Fury IIII is definitively a mega fight etc.

[bullydean]

I told you how it was mate.

Tyson Fury did not beat Deontay Wilder in their first fight.

Wilder out worked Fury, backed him up all night, and decked him twice once badly.

It was not a robbery, the fight was a draw etc.

You could've just said that lol

The public perception was that Fury won the fight. Yes he got dropped, but he beat the count. Nobody besides Wilder fans thought Fury lost by KO.
Officially it was draw. Nobody disputed that. I was clearly talking about the public's perception and I'm right that most agree Fury won the first fight.

Nothing you said disputed what I said. You just rambled about your opinion which is fine, but it means nothing.

[Goatintheboat]

Fury's footwork has progressively gotten worse. Whether that's because he hasn't had to change gears for a couple years or because his body just can't move like it used to is yet to be seen, but it's a downslide.

If you think Fury vs Wilder 4 is bigger than Fury vs AJ, Fury vs Zhang/Joyce, or Fury vs Ruiz then you're just a Wilder fanboy. Fury has slaughtered Wilder 2 times and most people agree Fury won the first fight.
So the public perception is that Fury beat Wilder 3 times in a row and factually Fury has KO'd Wilder 2 times in a row.
There is no interest in seeing Fury beat Wilder a 4th time.

There are bigger fights for Fury.

Never said that Fury v Wilder was bigger than any fight but to say there is no interest in a 4th fight is nonsense and particularly if Joshua gets smashed. It without doubt sells out Wembley and will no doubt sell a very healthy no. of PPVs. It is a bigger fight than Ruiz and Joyce. If the fight was in China against Zhang then yes that would be bigger but I doubt that would be the case so no again. Only the Joshua fight is bigger but not if Wilder lands a big one on him.

[Goatintheboat]

A professional boxing fight scored on: Style, Damage, and Aggression.

Deontay Wilder was superior to Tyson Fury in TWO of those categories which were 'Damage and Aggression'.

Deontay Wilder outworked Tyson Fury in that fight, and was the fighter who threw the highest number of punches.

Deontay Wilder landed a total of 71 punches and threw 430 punches. Fury landed 84 punches and threw 327 punches.

Factoring in that Wilder scored two knock downs, and effectively knocked Fury out in the last round. I believe those two knock-downs negate, Fury out landing Wilder by a mere 13 punches'.

Fury was only really Superior to Wilder in one category and that is with is Style. But overall Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly 'You do not win World titles away from home in that fashion'.

The fight Fury vs Wilder I was a draw, Tyson Fury 1000% did not win the fight 'Fury has achieved two wins over Wilder, and has one draw' etc.

Fury won the first fight. It was a blinding boxing performance winning round after round similar to Crawfords but with the added complications of the Wilder knock-downs. It was one of the best examples of a home decision ever.

Your own stats clearly demonstrate that Wilder was punching nothing most of the time and that Fury hit him more often but threw less. That's how you win a fight...... if it's scored correctly.